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I'm shooting select girl's volleyball with two 7Ds. I've tried the 85 1.8 and it works fine, but is too long for shots from close to the net. I'm looking for something that is wider. I've been using my 17-55 2.8 and I'm looking for a lens that is preferably faster f-stop wise as well as focusing.

Thanks for any ideas



Jan 31, 2013 at 01:57 AM
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I have the Canon 50 1.2L but I really can't recommend it for fast action. I've used it for gymnastics, on beam or pre-focused on vault but I didn't need the lens to snap to focus quickly. I haven't used the Canon 50 1.4. Perhaps the Sigma 50 1.4 would work? Maybe someone can help you out with info on those two.


Jan 31, 2013 at 02:04 AM
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What's your budget?


Jan 31, 2013 at 02:06 AM
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I'd be looking at the 35 f1.4L or either the new 24, 28 or 35 IS, the 35 f2 IS might be an interesting choice.


Jan 31, 2013 at 02:07 AM
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P.S. can you afford an EF 24-70/2.8L II?


Jan 31, 2013 at 02:10 AM
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jcolwell wrote:
P.S. can you afford an EF 24-70/2.8L II?


Thought he wanted a f2.0 or faster lens?



Jan 31, 2013 at 02:11 AM
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35 f1.4 or 50 1.4 - take your pick.


Jan 31, 2013 at 02:12 AM
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NCAndy wrote:
Thought he wanted a f2.0 or faster lens?


Right. I stopped understanding at the "wider" part.

I'd go for the 50/1.4 (as Paul mentioned).




Jan 31, 2013 at 02:15 AM
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Are we talking Canon 50 f/1.4? Surely you guys are kidding, he wants fast AF. This relic has a craptastically inferior version of USM that's decent at best.


Jan 31, 2013 at 02:59 AM
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Nah, the 7D's AF will boss it around. I'd walk into a shop and try them both.


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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Are we talking Canon 50 f/1.4? Surely you guys are kidding, he wants fast AF. This relic has a craptastically inferior version of USM that's decent at best.


My 50/1.4 USM works fine on AI-Servo. Thank you very much!



Jan 31, 2013 at 03:17 AM
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Billphysics wrote:
I'm shooting select girl's volleyball with two 7Ds. I've tried the 85 1.8 and it works fine, but is too long for shots from close to the net. I'm looking for something that is wider. I've been using my 17-55 2.8 and I'm looking for a lens that is preferably faster f-stop wise as well as focusing.

Thanks for any ideas

Go full frame w/ 85?



Jan 31, 2013 at 04:23 AM
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Thanks for the replies.

NCAndy I'm hoping to find someone that has a lens and uses it the way I'm thinking about.

jcowell I'd like to spend less than $500, but could go higher on the B+S board if I knew what would work.

NCAndy and jcowell Yes I'm looking for something faster than 2.8.

I tried one Canon 50 1.4 and focus was pretty slow. Maybe I need to try another one.

Has anybody used the 35 1.4 for sports or anything else that requires fast focusing?

Thanks again for the ideas.

Bill





Jan 31, 2013 at 04:24 AM
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thedutt I've thought about buying a used 1D3, but I really like my 17-55 with it's IS and there isn't anything like it for a 1D or a 5D that I'm aware of.

I guess I could sell one of the 7Ds and get a 1DIII.

It always boils down to money.



Jan 31, 2013 at 05:14 AM
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sigma 30mm 1.4 is pretty good with it's HSM motor. Mine was decent opened up and excellent by f/2. the new one will probably be excellent. The 28mm 1.8 has USM (I've never owned it). Otherwise you're looking at the 35mm f/1.4. The two new IS primes won't help you with low light.

To be honest, the 85 is probably the best of the bunch. Back up a little and shoot away.



Jan 31, 2013 at 06:17 AM
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The 35L focuses great and is very good. Get a used one!


Jan 31, 2013 at 08:17 AM
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Sigma 30 / 35 / 50?
Also a Tamron 60/2 macro (APS-H compatible) is a fine lens, but I'm having doubts it's good at subject tracking.



Jan 31, 2013 at 08:51 AM
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Billphysics wrote:
thedutt I've thought about buying a used 1D3, but I really like my 17-55 with it's IS and there isn't anything like it for a 1D or a 5D that I'm aware of.

I guess I could sell one of the 7Ds and get a 1DIII.

It always boils down to money.



That would be my choice.

I have the 17-55 and like you say I can't see anything as good that is stabilised . (Maybe the Tamron 24-70 . )
Even allowing for the 1 stop advantage a larger sensor has still only leaves the 24-105L (my EFs beats my 24-105L easily) or the new 24-70/4 , which from what I have seen and read is a big disappointment for what it costs .

If you were to run a 7D with the zoom and a mk3 with the 85 that gives you aprox 20mm difference (equalised to FF)

I've never used the 85 but understand its very fast AF. But I have used the 30/1.4 (they have just announced a new one of those by the way) canon 50/1.4 and a borrowed 35/2 .
I have to say that non of those I would consider to be blindingly fast AF . The 30 was great in the IQ and the AF was quick enough but sigma don't have HSM down to very fast and still keep the accuracy . The 50 was again fast enough but I would say in servo mode it struggled more . It's not real ring USM after all . And the 35/2 well the less said about that AF the better

I guess really it depends on how much wider you really need .



Jan 31, 2013 at 09:34 AM
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Billphysics wrote:
I tried one Canon 50 1.4 and focus was pretty slow. Maybe I need to try another one.

Bill


No you don't, you saw it as it really is, and old clunker with trailing edge antique AF.



Jan 31, 2013 at 12:01 PM
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I've given serious consideration recenty picking up a 5DIII for the same reason....I would prefer to use my 70-200 2.8II for indoor sports stuff of my daughter, but it's just not fast enough (1/400 or faster) unless I jack my 7D's ISO up to ISO6400, which has given me mixed results...so I'm using a Sigma 85mm 1.4, which actually focuses fairly fast for indoor stuff, keeps the ISO's down, but obviously limits my flexibilty in framing, as well as making it so I don't have a whole lot to work with as the lens is typically down around f/1.6-f/1.8 to keep the shutter around 1/400 or faster.

Anyways, back to the OP's question- I'd try a 35mm 1.4, or maybe a Sigma 30mm 1.4. I find the Sigma 30mm & 85mm 1.4's to be a very useful combo on my 7D.



Jan 31, 2013 at 01:11 PM
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