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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 7D compared to 5D3


This comparison was done for my own satisfaction and anyone else who is interested. If you want a more detailed or scientific comparison, do it yourself.

7D shot taken with bare 500 f4, 5D3 shot taken with 500 f4 plus 1.4x TC.

Processed similarly.





7D

  Canon EOS 7D    EF500mm f/4L IS II USM lens    500mm    f/6.3    1/1600s    1600 ISO    0.0 EV  







5D3

  Canon EOS 5D Mark III    EF500mm f/4L IS II USM +1.4x III lens    700mm    f/5.6    1/1000s    1600 ISO    0.0 EV  







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Jan 18, 2013 at 03:46 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 7D compared to 5D3


Might nice. The only real difference I see is in the eye which can easily be due to the angle of the light on it at the moment you took the photo. Otherwise more than I could ask for.


Jan 18, 2013 at 03:51 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 7D compared to 5D3


More pixels per shag?


Jan 18, 2013 at 04:00 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 7D compared to 5D3


5D III shots looks more detailed. Whether this is due to 7D shot being ever so slightly oof or 5D III having bit better IQ. The more I look at it the more it looks like the 7D shot has focussed on the top of the wing (or maybe a fraction to the left of the top) not the eye. If you look closely the beak which is slightly angled toward the camera, is very sharp at the tip where it's in the same plane as the top of the wing.

Were these focused with live-view?



Jan 18, 2013 at 04:01 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 7D compared to 5D3


Pixel Perfect wrote:
5D III shots looks more detailed. Whether this is due to 7D shot being ever so slightly oof or 5D III having bit better IQ. The more I look at it the more it looks like the 7D shot has focussed on the top of the wing (or maybe a fraction to the left of the top) not the eye. If you look closely the beak which is slightly angled toward the camera, is very sharp at the tip where it's in the same plane as the top of the wing.

Were these focused with live-view?

Agreed, the first thing that i thought of the 7d shot was that the focus was on the wing.



Jan 18, 2013 at 04:37 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 7D compared to 5D3


Thanks for the comparison. To me they look really close.



Jan 18, 2013 at 04:41 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 7D compared to 5D3


Just goes to show how small the differences are between sensors when there is decent light. At ISO 6400 you would see a lot more difference.


Jan 18, 2013 at 06:02 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 7D compared to 5D3


saneproduction wrote:
Just goes to show how small the differences are between sensors when there is decent light. At ISO 6400 you would see a lot more difference.


Agreed, but for an ISO 1600 shot, this shows the 7D is still excellent despite that many would have us believe otherwise.



Jan 18, 2013 at 06:04 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 7D compared to 5D3


Oh ya, 3200 is even good on the 7D though the noise is stronger there for sure compared to a 5DII ( which is about 2/3 a stop better in RAW at that ISO). 5DIII is even better. The thing that really shines on the 5DIII is ISO 6400 in raw. I would say 2/3 stop better than 5DII and 1 1/3 better than the 7D


Jan 18, 2013 at 06:31 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 7D compared to 5D3


Which combination did you prefer working with Tony?




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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 7D compared to 5D3


7D's shot looks good, but the 5D3's is noticeably better, particularly in the OOF background. Feather detail also better, but like others mentioned that could have been a slight miss on the 7D's shot.

Thanks for the comparison! Both viable cameras in the right hands!




Jan 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 7D compared to 5D3


1 thing: (and I in no way criticise Tony for his shots )

Why is the 7D shot at f6.3 and the 5D3 shot at 5.6?

I would be interesting to see the same type of test with both shots wide open (eg f4 & 5.6) with the crop body shot gaining the stop iso that the ff lost by needing the TC .

But that said it still shows (and Tony manages to point out very well) how capable the 7D can be



Jan 18, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 7D compared to 5D3


While I think it is a great thing to be comparing performance on real targets as opposed to shooting $ bills and charts, so kudos to Markle for that, the difficulty of such comparison is significant because, in this particular example, the shag might have moved, twitched, the light might have changed between shots, etc.

(1) I do not think either shot is sharp enough for 500 II + 1.4xTC capability. Can't tell if it is due to misfocussing, camera/lens shake, the bird twitching or whatever.
(2) The true ugly nature of 7D files at ISO 1600 are not shown enough because the enlargement crops are moderate, and not much dark areas "lifting" was involved.
(3) 7D ought to show more detail on perfectly focussed shots and @ low ISO. However, that is like saying I will live for ever unless I die of an illness. 5D3 is a much better focusing camera and it handles high ISO much better......and that makes it a much better camera than 7D in most situations.

Edited on Jan 18, 2013 at 01:02 PM · View previous versions



Jan 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 7D compared to 5D3


Interesting. Thanks for posting. The 7D is great value for money.


Jan 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 7D compared to 5D3


This comparison reminds me why I prefer to keep my 7D at low ISO's whenever I can. I'd love to see a comparsion of these two in good sunlight and ISO 100-400 or something. Sure, for a cropper I would agree the 7D isn't bad at all ISO wise, definately can be worked with in PP, but seeing the 5D3 shrug off higher ISO's the way it does makes me wish I had one for indoor or low-light stuff.




Jan 18, 2013 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 7D compared to 5D3


Nice comparison!

The 7D photo looks like it's focus on the wing closest to camera. That section appears more in focus than eyes. The crop photo shows that pretty clearly as the feathers on the left is really sharp.

Thanks for sharing!




Jan 18, 2013 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 7D compared to 5D3


Once again, this was just a rough comparison using shots from the way I shoot most often. These were handheld from a moving jetty on a cloudy day, I was changing bodies and TC, and I was not sure if Cormorant was going to take off. So I certainly was not going to use Live View.

As for where the exact focus point was, que sera, sera. I have not decided which camera I prefer at this point.

Maybe when the sun comes out and it gets warmer, I will do a more exacting comparison.

Both shots are plenty sharp enough for me.



Jan 18, 2013 at 04:04 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 7D compared to 5D3


They both look good to me. 5d3 seems to show more detail in the feather/hair areas. If it looks good it looks good. 7d image seems more contrasty. Might be because of the tele-converter that the 5d3/500L had to employ.

Both are pleasing images. I rather enjoy the image as a whole than to look for deficiencies based on predisposed bias.



Jan 18, 2013 at 05:25 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 7D compared to 5D3


Yes no doubt both great and probably print or web display very well.



Jan 18, 2013 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 7D compared to 5D3


Great post. Before getting into photography, I did an extensive research into which camera would suit my needs. My preference was the 7D which I use now for the APS-C and the 5D mkiii for full frame (though it would be nice to have the gps, wireless transmitter, and iPhone bluetooth hookup from the 6D).

Thanks for comparing the kings of both frame types

Kal



Jan 18, 2013 at 05:41 PM
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