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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


If you've had the low profile 4th Generation Design replacement foot on your lens......

Can you place your fingers in the gap between the foot and the barrel so as to carry the lens by the foot as a handle, without causing much discomfort ? (I am talking about an average man's hand size.)



Jan 04, 2013 at 02:19 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Gen 1 or 2?


Jan 04, 2013 at 02:52 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


godfather wrote:
Gen 1 or 2?


Whatever you've got, state your case ....as long as you have the 4th Gen Design foot on it.
Also, I am talking about their old foot, not the new adjustable kind.



Jan 04, 2013 at 02:57 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


I left the foot on that came with the lens attached on my 600 v2, not the other one that was in the box (so I don't know if what generation that is).

It is fine to hold the lens and I did not notice a big difference relative to my 500 v1.

The other foot (included in box that I did not put on) looks way smaller and not appropriate for hand holding but I will look again this evening.

I don't know what they were trying to solve with the new foot.

Scott



Jan 04, 2013 at 03:07 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Scott, PetKal is looking at the older style replacement foot from 4th Generation Design. Your new version 2 lens came with two feet the smaller of which is half the weight and IMO has a better balance point for monopod attachment.

From what I've been told the old foot does not fit on the version 2 lens. Not only are the holes larger in diameter but the CTC measurement is different according to other shooters. I did call the company and was quoted that the new adjustable foot is ~3.4 oz and ~15/16 inch tall from mount to bottom of the plate.

Edited on Jan 04, 2013 at 03:30 PM · View previous versions



Jan 04, 2013 at 03:20 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Sorry Scott, I should have included the link for the low profile replacement foot I am considering.

I assume Canon supplied the smaller foot with their lens set for people who just want to screw it on a monopod. Either way, I have no use for that small foot.



Jan 04, 2013 at 03:21 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Thanks Godfather, PetKal - I should have noticed the capitalization. I looked at the part and I am sceptical that you will be able to get normal man fingers under it because the OEM foot is tight for my 6'2" soft office fingers and the new foot looks way smaller. But I am just speculating.

I just put on a long plate on my existing foot for balance and lift weights (if you saw me you would think this is funny. I only lift 500 v1 and 600 v2)

Thanks for the education.

Scott



Jan 04, 2013 at 07:25 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Don't know if it will be the same with the CP-61b/600mm, but I found the CP-51b a bit tight to hold on my old 500mm. I could fit my average size fingers on my average size hand around the plate, but it wasn't comfortable to hold over several minutes that way. I prefer the RRS foot from that perspective.


Jan 04, 2013 at 07:33 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


When I had the 600 IS version 1 I had the 4th Gen foot. I had no problem carrying it. I do have thin fingers though...


Jan 04, 2013 at 07:53 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


i had the 4th gen and the 800mm. i'm 6'4 and 250 lbs. carrying it was kinda a pain because of how low profile the foot was.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Let me tell you what my experience is with the 4th Gen designs replacement feet so far (my hand is perhaps some 10% heavier than the average) :

(1) 400 f/2.8 IS MkI.......the foot was too close to the barrel,too snug, and it was not comfortable as a handle at all.
(2) 800L.......the dedicated foot is great....although it is the low profile type, the clearance to barrel is sufficient for me to be able to use it as a handle.

There you go.



Jan 04, 2013 at 08:58 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Are you talking about my left foot or my right foot.

And I have two left feet, so which one, if you are referring to the left foot



Jan 04, 2013 at 09:17 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
Are you talking about my left foot or my right foot.

And I have two left feet, so which one, if you are referring to the left foot


Just curious which is worse, having two left feet, or two right feet?



Jan 05, 2013 at 01:27 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Liquidstone wrote:
Just curious which is worse, having two left feet, or two right feet?


Depends on whether you are right or left-handed. For balance, it is better to be right-handed if you have two left feet.



Jan 05, 2013 at 02:06 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


On the series II my fingers fit fine under the foot. The problem with the existing foot for me is it is too short to control the lens well when hand carrying.


Jan 05, 2013 at 04:42 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


PetKal wrote:
Let me tell you what my experience is with the 4th Gen designs replacement feet so far (my hand is perhaps some 10% heavier than the average) :

(1) 400 f/2.8 IS MkI.......the foot was too close to the barrel,too snug, and it was not comfortable as a handle at all.
(2) 800L.......the dedicated foot is great....although it is the low profile type, the clearance to barrel is sufficient for me to be able to use it as a handle.

There you go.


I also have the same foot with my 800. Same experience though my hands miss the cushioned original foot that came from Canon.

My concern with the 4th Gen 600 IS II foot is that the monopod screw in thread may not be enough to screw in a monopod securely. Something worrisome to think about when it is supposed to securely support $20,000 worth of photo gear onto it.

The RRS foot for the 400 IS II is described to be used with the 500 IS II and 600 IS II but I found it a tad too tall.

The foots I know that are available for 600 IS II are these

AP-602 For Canon: 400 f/2.8 IS (ver. I & II) 600 f/4 IS (ver. I & II), & 800 f/5.6 IS $79
http://www.tripodhead.com/products/replacement-feet-main.cfm

LF-C604M2 Replacement Foot for Canon 600F4 IS 2 and 400mm F2.8 IS 2 $115
http://www.jobu-design.com/catalog/item/7860822/9477695.htm

CRX-5: EF 500mm f/4L IS II USM and EF 600mm f/4L IS II USM $122
http://stores.4gdphoto.com/-strse-124/CRX-dsh-5/Detail.bok

LP-5 or LP-55SG Canon 600mm f4 IS II USM $100 or $118
http://www.kirkphoto.com/Lens_Plate_for_Canon_600mm_f4_IS__II_USM_replacing_Canon_foot.html

LCF-53: Foot for 400/500/600mm IS-II $110
http://reallyrightstuff.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=LCF-53&type=0&eq=

Did I miss anyone? If I did kindly post a link. I am also looking.



Jan 05, 2013 at 07:11 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Yes


Jan 05, 2013 at 08:03 AM
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dolina wrote:
My concern with the 4th Gen 600 IS II foot is that the monopod screw in thread may not be enough to screw in a monopod securely. Something worrisome to think about when it is supposed to securely support $20,000 worth of photo gear onto it.



When you have a Quick Release Clamp on your monopod that is not a problem.

Geert



Jan 05, 2013 at 09:42 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Geert Koning wrote:
When you have a Quick Release Clamp on your monopod that is not a problem.

Geert

Yes but I carry 14kg of gear sans bag, clothes, laptop, chargers and other items. So adding a clamp is... more weight and more expense no matter how miniscule it may be.

I may even migrate to a Mongoose gimbal cut weight down further.



Jan 05, 2013 at 10:29 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 600 f/4 IS owners: a question


Paolo, thank you for the overview of all replacement feet.
I have Wimberly QR clamps on my monopods as well as the tripod....I think that has worked very well for me.....the additional clamp weight is negligible. (One can trim weight elsewhere in a major way, such as choosing a lighter/smaller carrying bag, getting "3" series Gitzo tripod instead of "5" series, etc.)



Jan 05, 2013 at 12:07 PM
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