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Gosh, you have both the 100 and the 200 sitting in your 70-200 f4. I assume it's suitably sharp. Maybe if you could find a better way to carry it you'd like it better.


Jan 04, 2013 at 02:17 PM
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p.3 #2 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


To answer a question you haven't asked with another question: Have you thought about the Sigma DP2M Merril with an equivalent focal length of 45mm? The IQ and detail is astonishing.


Jan 04, 2013 at 02:23 PM
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RRRoger wrote:
My V1 and CX lens very small and light weight for hiking.
The images are very good and I like the huge DOF.
But when the very best images are what I am after, it is the D800 and Heavy Pro Glass with a TriPod.
Or the 28-300 Hand Held, which is nearly as good.

I also just got the SuperLight (and surprisingly good) AF-S 50 f/1.8G.
It might be very good for hiking at the Pinnacles, especially in the caves.


Yes the 50/1.8G is one of my lightweight go-to primes that I always take along with my D800.
Last weekend I took my 16/3.5 AI, 50/1.8G, and 100/2.8 Series E.

John


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Jan 04, 2013 at 05:21 PM
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p.3 #4 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


another vote for the Voigtländer (90mm 3.5). The Zeiss is excellent too, faster but much heavier. I use both and can recommend both.

Guy



Jan 04, 2013 at 06:58 PM
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p.3 #5 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


jhinkey wrote:
Oh yeah - pretty pricey though!



Not compared to the 125mm f2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar...



Jan 04, 2013 at 07:56 PM
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molson wrote:
Not compared to the 125mm f2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar...


I checked and you are indeed correct. The 180/4 Voigt sure seems like a sweet lens . . .



Jan 05, 2013 at 03:40 AM
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jhinkey wrote:
I checked and you are indeed correct. The 180/4 Voigt sure seems like a sweet lens . . .



It's a shame that Cosina didn't keep either of these lenses in production.



Jan 05, 2013 at 03:39 PM
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molson wrote:
It's a shame that Cosina didn't keep either of these lenses in production.


+1



Jan 05, 2013 at 06:12 PM
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ReyGay wrote:
Here ya go:

My older 135mm really looks beat up on this photo - the serial no. you needed on the right lens sample:

The front lens seems to have similar coatings but I think there is less green and purple coating on the later version:

This guy has some great references on serial no's but it doesn't say which ones has the recent coatings: http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/lenses.html

Cheers!



Thanks - I just bought a mint- condition 135/2.8 AIS with a serial number starting at 969XXX, so I am assuming it has the most recent coatings since the serial numbers start at 900001 and end at 975102 from 1981 to 2005. It's not too far from yours in its age.

I'll let you know when it comes in.

So far in the ~100mm-ish range have a 90/3.5 CV, 100/2.8 Series E, 105/2.5 AIS, 135/2.8AIS, 70-200/4 AFS, and 70-200/2.8 AFS VRII. We'll see who does well at distance at f/4 and f/5.6. I may also grab a 135/3.5 AI or AIS if I can pick a good condition one up cheaply enough.

John



Jan 05, 2013 at 11:14 PM
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p.3 #10 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


The CV 90 got a few frames today, but the weather was just terrible. This is the best I could do - not the greatest of my efforts for sure.

More to come.

John





Lonely Ferry In The Rain & Fog

  NIKON D800    90mm    f/5.6    1/160s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  




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Well, the sun was shining today and I got a chance to have a quick try out of the 90CV on my D800 with some proper weather.

Java is currently broken, so one image at a time for uploading.

Here's a close-up of a corroding railing at the beach. Really loving the close focusing capability of this lens.

John





Corrosion Up Close - CV90 Style

  NIKON D800    90mm    f/3.5    1/500s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jan 12, 2013 at 04:45 AM
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p.3 #12 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


Here's another series of up close shots with the CV90 on my D800. First is my daughter - full image.





Full Frame Shot - Focus On Her Right Eye

  NIKON D800    90mm    f/3.5    1/320s    3200 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jan 12, 2013 at 04:46 AM
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p.3 #13 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


Here's a 100% crop - absolutely no sharpening (turned it completely off in NX2).
I think the CV90 is incredibly sharp wide open up close.





It's Eye Lash Sharp Up Close - Completely Un-Sharpened

  NIKON D800    90mm    f/3.5    1/320s    3200 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jan 12, 2013 at 04:47 AM
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The crop of the eyelid would have been much better at a lower ISO. It's a little grainy.


Jan 12, 2013 at 01:05 PM
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DaveOls wrote:
The crop of the eyelid would have been much better at a lower ISO. It's a little grainy.

Did you happen to look at the shutter speed I was at and I am already wide open?
Not much you can do when there is not a lot of light.

I need to be at least at 1/2xFL for sharp hand held images and up close it needs to be even faster than that, so there was not much I could do short of using a flash.

John


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Jan 12, 2013 at 04:50 PM
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p.3 #16 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


John, lovely corrosion-shot and beautiful portrait - or vice versa ;-) Thanks for sharing your impressions about the CV90. Which version did you get?


Jan 13, 2013 at 12:15 AM
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p.3 #17 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


georgms wrote:
John, lovely corrosion-shot and beautiful portrait - or vice versa ;-) Thanks for sharing your impressions about the CV90. Which version did you get?


Thanks Georg - A brand new SL-II.



Jan 13, 2013 at 02:46 AM
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jhinkey wrote:
Thanks Georg - A brand new SL-II.


Here's a quick landscape shot - hand held and not critically focused, so it could be better I suppose.

Default sharpening set to 2 in NX2 and in CS6 with a little smart sharpening this really get's sharp.






Full Scene

  NIKON D800    90mm    f/5.6    1/640s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







100% Crop

  NIKON D800    90mm    f/5.6    1/640s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jan 14, 2013 at 01:19 AM
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p.3 #19 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


I would second the idea of going medium-format alt - a manual-focus Mamiya 150mm 2.8 neatly splits the difference in focal length, is incredibly light and compact (with a neat built-in hood), and is an exceptional lens. Cheap, too!


Jan 14, 2013 at 03:07 PM
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p.3 #20 · ~100mm & ~200mm Lightweight Prime Options


Resurrecting this thread a bit.

I now have had a chance to do a comparison between my 105/2.5 AIS, 100/2 MP ZF2 (from LensRentals), and my 90/3.5 CV on my D800. I only had time for a quick test today which focused on sharpness at infinity.

Very impressed with the 100/2 MP.
Very impressed with the 90/3.5 CV
My trusty 105/2.5 AIS is showing it's age

At all apertures the 105/2.5 was last - primarily due to corner/edge lack of sharpness as well as overall lower contrast. 36MP is past it's capabilities.

At equivalent apertures the 100MP and 90CV were tied with maybe the 90CV doing a fraction of a hair better - maybe.

Both of these lenses - 100MP and 90CV - were outstanding across the frame (center to extreme corner) at all apertures - i.e., there was only a very small improvement stopping down to f/5.6 or f/8. No fear at all of shooting the 90CV wide open.

What was even more impressive is that the 100MP was also extremely good wide open with only a very slight trace of reduction in sharpness compared to f/5.6 - even the extreme corners were very sharp at f/2.

Now the question is - Is fantastic across the frame even at f/2 worth the price for the Zeiss? This would be a low light landscape and portraiture lens.

The 100MP ZF2 violates my lightweight goal, but the 90CV does not and is likely to replace my 105/2.5 AIS for my hiking/backpacking 100mm-ish prime.

Now I need to figure out what to sell to get the Zeiss . . .



Feb 07, 2013 at 06:34 AM
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