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p.1 #1 · 300mm or 400mm?


I use a Canon 7D now. Over summer I'm going to either get a 300mm f/4 or a 400 f/5.6 for wild life shots.. I have a 70-200 f/4 right now, but for wild life it just doesn't cut it. I have to crop too much. But I would also like to use it for sports. Would a 400mm be too close on a high school field(Football, soccer). It would be on the 7D too so effectively it would be a 640mm. Is that too much?


Dec 30, 2012 at 08:50 PM
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p.1 #2 · 300mm or 400mm?


Many of my friends who shoot Canon are very happy with a 300mm on a crop sensor camera. Plenty of lens for baseball and football. I would recommend going 2.8, but I know there is a huge price difference.


Dec 30, 2012 at 08:56 PM
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p.1 #3 · 300mm or 400mm?


I would love to get the f/2.8 version. But I'm only 16 so I don't have a good source of cash right now. But the f/4 should be good. My 70-200 is an f/4 and I get pretty good shots with that.


Dec 30, 2012 at 09:20 PM
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p.1 #4 · 300mm or 400mm?


Maybe a used 100-400 here on the board


Dec 30, 2012 at 10:29 PM
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p.1 #5 · 300mm or 400mm?


400mm on a 7D will get you a head to toe shot of a player at the 50 yard line FROM THE END ZONE. I have a 300 2.8 and I really like it for football. I played with a 1.4x on it and it was too close for someone with full sideline access.

Paul



Dec 31, 2012 at 01:18 AM
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p.1 #6 · 300mm or 400mm?


I shoot a lot of high school sports and use a 70-200 on a 5DIII and a 300/2.8 on a 1DIV for soccer, football, lacrosse, rugby, baseball . . . . I would like to have a 400 2.8 for the 1DIV but I think it would be too tight on a 7D. Also, you will push past the max ISO on the 7D with any 5.6 lens. I shoot at 12,800 ISO with my 1DIV at 2.8 and wish I had an extra stop for most night games in my area. If you only shoot day time games, the 5.6 aperture would be fine. For the ISO limitations at night alone, I would get the 300 for night games and a tele-converter for wildlife during the day.

Andy



Dec 31, 2012 at 01:23 AM
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p.1 #7 · 300mm or 400mm?


gome1122 wrote:
I use a Canon 7D now. Over summer I'm going to either get a 300mm f/4 or a 400 f/5.6 for wild life shots.. I have a 70-200 f/4 right now, but for wild life it just doesn't cut it. I have to crop too much. But I would also like to use it for sports. Would a 400mm be too close on a high school field(Football, soccer). It would be on the 7D too so effectively it would be a 640mm. Is that too much?


the 100-400 might be a better choice for wildlife and outdoor sports like soccer and football





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p.1 #8 · 300mm or 400mm?


For wildlife, the 400 5.6 is fa stunning lens. The 5.6 f stop is the only draw back, but most of this kind of shooting is in good light. It has great IQ and much better reach than the 300.
For sports the 300 or you 70-200 should be ideal. The only thing better would be a 2.8 lens in the same configuration.
Best wishes.



Dec 31, 2012 at 03:38 PM
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p.1 #9 · 300mm or 400mm?


I used to have a 7D and used it with both the 300mm F4 & 400mm F5.6

The 7D & 400mm F5.6 was fantastic for reach. The F5.6 aperture could lead to noise with the 7D in dimmer light.

When I had a 7D the 300mm F4 was a good lens. the 7D pixel density gives you decent reach even with a 300mm
the F4 kept the ISO down and as a result the noise was less than with the F5.6 lens
the 300mm F4 takes a 1.4X TC quite well

I find the 300mm F4 non-IS to be sharper at F4.0 & 4.5
It also seems to acquire faster as you do not have to wait for the IS to stabilize as with the 300mm F4 IS



Mar 03, 2013 at 12:43 AM
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p.1 #10 · 300mm or 400mm?


Here is where Canon shooters have a nice advantage. There are three different ways to get into long focal length optics with a reasonable budget. The choice between the 300 f4IS L, 400 f5.6, and 100-400 f4.5-5.6L is a tough one to make, so you really need to think about how the lens will be use. I shoot with a 300 f2.8L IS and 100-400L IS and I use these mostly for wildlife photography (btw, wildlife is one word).

Here are my thoughts...
if you're going to shoot birds in flight with blue sky or distant backgrounds or you're looking to work from a tripod, go with the straight 400 f5.6L. This lens is light, sharp as glass and easy to hold. However, the lack of IS makes it somewhat inflexible for handheld photography and the f5.6 max aperture can really produce an ugly bokeh if your subject is not isolated from the background.

if you're looking for an all around wildlife lens that will do double duty for some sports, I'd suggest the 100-400f4.5-5.6L. While this lens shares the slow aperture of 5.6 @ 400mm w/ the non-zoom, the IS increases your hand-holdability and offers great flexibility. As a sport or wildlife optic, you've got the zoom to help you compose when the action gets close.

if you're a wildlife specialist (or wanting to be one), I'd suggest the 300 f4L IS. This lens is plenty sharp, has adequate IS, and really does well from a tripod. In addition, it focuses close for a long lens and can be used as a pseudo macro that will allow you to work with animals that might be wary of a close approach. Add a 1.4x converter (v1's can be had for about $150) and you have a very useable 420 f5.6 at your disposal. The only disadvantage of the 300 f4L IS is that it's not a zoom.

good luck with your purchase and regards
bruce




Mar 03, 2013 at 03:06 AM
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p.1 #11 · 300mm or 400mm?


Is it true the 300 f4 IS AF is a tad slow - the 400's AF being far(?) better - say for BIF's?


Mar 03, 2013 at 03:34 AM
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p.1 #12 · 300mm or 400mm?


For me, wildlife is 90% birds. I had the excellent 300/4 is, but wanted more reach, even on a 7D. I got the 400/5.6, but I could see a case for a 100-400 to get the IS advantage, plus ability to zoom.


Mar 03, 2013 at 04:02 AM
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p.1 #13 · 300mm or 400mm?


amlsml wrote:
Maybe a used 100-400 here on the board


+1



Mar 03, 2013 at 05:10 AM





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