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jmkshm
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


I think I'm about to make the move from my T1i to a 5DC as my first FF camera. I have several fast zoom lenses but still have the kit lens on my T1. Current lenses are:

50 1.8
85 1.8
70-200 f4 and 2.8 (deciding which to keep)

I need something to be my general purpose lens but have a limited budget right now. I spent all my money on good zooms for kids action :-). One day my plan is to upgrade to a better general lens.

In the $400 or less range, do you have any suggestions? I know some of the options are the Canon 28-135, Sigma/ Tamron 24-75's, or do I just add a smaller prime until I can spend more? I would like to get something that should keep its value for when I upgrade.



Dec 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


Can you sell one of the 70-200 lenses, then add the money to your $400 for a 24-100L ($750 for almost new on B&S)?


Dec 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


Canon dont make a cheap FF general zoom apart from the 28-135 which I wouldnt own.

24-105 is the best option.



Dec 19, 2012 at 11:09 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


RobDickinson wrote:
Canon dont make a cheap FF general zoom apart from the 28-135 which I wouldnt own.

24-105 is the best option.


+1

Absolutely right.



Dec 19, 2012 at 11:11 PM
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jmkshm wrote:
I need something to be my general purpose lens but have a limited budget right now. I spent all my money on good zooms for kids action :-). One day my plan is to upgrade to a better general lens.


For a general purpose lens, the 50 mm is great. When I had a set consisting of the 50, the 28 f/2.8, and the 70-210 push-pull (and a film camera it was that long ago), the 50 was my general purpose lens and it did very well.

Then I got digital and got an 85 mm f/1.8 which become my general purpose lens.

A couple of years ago I got the 100 mm f/2.8 USM (non-IS) and it has become my most commonly attached walk-around lens (general purpose lens).

With your kit and budget, you could save up another hundred bucks or so and get the 100 macro used.

But with your kit, I would add a wide angle lens first, and the 35 mm f/2 or 28 f/2.8 (non-IS) would be excellent budget choices: sharp and inexpensive. I still have the 28 f/2.8 (and the 50, 85, and 100 macro). I would suggest the 28 over the 35 simply because 35 mm is very mild compared to 50 mm.

Get capability (a range of focal lengths) before upgrading quality. A 28 f/2.8 (non-IS) in your bag will make a better wide angle photo than a 50mm in your bag or a 28 on the shelf at the store.

However, the 40 mm f/2.8 is a lovely little lens which lots to recommend it: sharp, beautiful bokeh, light, compact, inexpensive. Consider it too, perhaps as a replacement for the 50 f/1.8. I want to add it to my set soon (and keep the 50 f/1.8).



Dec 19, 2012 at 11:25 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


I'd sell which ever of your 70-200 is less sharp, probably the 2.8 unless its the 2.8ii. Then buy either the 24-105 or new tamron 24-70. The later is more spends but gives you 2.8 and IS


Dec 20, 2012 at 01:36 AM
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RobDickinson wrote:
Canon dont make a cheap FF general zoom apart from the 28-135 which I wouldnt own.

24-105 is the best option.


I think you'll get many recommendations for the 24-105L. I believe Canon built this lens with "walk-around" in mind. It would be hard to beat.



Dec 20, 2012 at 01:49 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


If you're on too tight of a budget to spring for the EF 24-105 4L IS USM, I'd say look for a used EF 24-85 3.5-4.5 USM. You get slightly faster AF, a more petite lens and about 80% of the IQ for one to two benjamins. My review of the 24-85 USM:

http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/frary/canon_ef24-85usm.htm

I spend 10 years shooting with the 24-85 and it was proved to surprising tough considering all the knocks, mist and rain that hit it.






Dec 20, 2012 at 01:55 AM
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Monito wrote:
For a general purpose lens, the 50 mm is great.


Some people get along with it for this, and some don't. As it is longer than normal, those of us who don't often prefer to shoot at 70mm or 85mm when we want a short tele. Many people who are in this category also like 35mm as the other lens they carry.

Note also the 40mm pancake is well within your budget. This is close to the standard focal length for full frame, 43mm. Many people feel that 50mm is too long for a standard lens on this format - it's 20% longer than 43mm. I do possess a 50mm lens, but regard it as special purpose.

Get capability (a range of focal lengths) before upgrading quality. A 28 f/2.8 (non-IS) in your bag will make a better wide angle photo than a 50mm in your bag or a 28 on the shelf at the store.

I agree with this up to a point. Your time is worth something and it may be better spent concentrating on a special interest and getting the best equipment for that.



Dec 20, 2012 at 02:07 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


Gunzorro wrote:
+1

Absolutely right.


+2



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


I'll also give my first vote for the 24-105L!!! However, I've seen some decently performing 28-135 IS lenses, and I had one when I first got into photography. Did a decent job, if your willing to give it a try, I wouldn't hesitate trying one for "budgetary" constraints if that's a concern...


Dec 20, 2012 at 02:18 AM
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I have an old 28-80 USM mk1 which gives decent results if you wanted cheap for a bit.

edit : Well I did before the earthquakes. Somewhere behind a very heavy desk now...



Dec 20, 2012 at 02:30 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


The 5Dc is a great camera. Do yourself a favor and go for the 24-105. With your primes and one of the 70-200s you'll have a fine kit.


Dec 20, 2012 at 02:31 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


I have the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 and it does pretty well.


Dec 20, 2012 at 02:35 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


ooh rescued , still works!
Trying to crack the mystery that is 6d raws (and dpp) the in camera job though.

Lacks some contrast and sharpness, flares a bit, vignets a lot at 28/3.5 but at least it still works.




Dec 20, 2012 at 02:47 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


Given the lenses you have, I'd consider the 17-40/4 L.

Given the options you mention, I'd go along with the others and say the 24-105/4 IS L.

Either one, of course, is about twice your stated budget.



Dec 20, 2012 at 04:02 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


If you just want a decent knock around non 'L' lens I can recommend Canon's older mid level/quality EF 24-85 f3.5 - 4.5 USM. I've had one for near 15 years and it has served me well, it's small and easy to carry, about the same size as the 50 f1.4. You can find them used for around $200 or less, as said it's not an L, but you won't spend much or loose much on resale. Here are two reviews, the second has sample images...

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-24-85mm-f-3.5-4.5-USM-Lens-Review.aspx

http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/frary/canon_ef24-85usm.htm

The 17-40 is a great lens, I picked one up used here on FM and it's a fantastic walk around lens on either a crop or FF body; FF for me is film at the moment. Here's a link to two images I posted awhile back, the 1st two images in the set were taken with a 50D and the 17-40L...

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1149712/15#11014188



Dec 20, 2012 at 04:18 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 and Sigma 24-60mm f2.8 are great choices under $400


Dec 20, 2012 at 05:26 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


At different times, I've used the 28-135 (my first normal zoom), then the Tamron 28-75 (my first fast zoom), then the 24-105 (my current "compromise" zoom). The construction, focal length versatility and image quality of the 24-105, while not spectacular, are very good and it's the first normal zoom that meets my needs.

To the OP,
I'd sell the 70-200f4 and buy the 24-105. If you still don't have enough, I'd save my money until I could afford one.
Keep the 70-200f2.8 non-IS, it's one of the sharpest zooms in the Canon lineup, and soon to be retired. Better than the 70-200f4 non-IS and f2.8 IS v1.

I also saw that you were on the Nikon forum asking about a switch for better lowlight performance. The 70-200f2.8 would be a much better choice in this regard.



Dec 20, 2012 at 05:53 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Moving to FF, advice on general purpose lens


The 17-40 is only so-so. It is the kind of zoom that makes people passionate about primes. After trying one out I was not impressed and I'm glad I never purchased one. Follow some of the other suggestions people are making.


Dec 20, 2012 at 11:47 AM
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