Home · Register · Search · View Winners · Software · Hosting · Software · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username   Password

  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Nikon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1      
2
       end
  

Archive 2012 · just some daydreaming
  
 
EB-1
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #1 · just some daydreaming


Wes Bailey wrote:
Although I just purchased an almost new used D700 -this is what I'd go for - take the D700 and drop in the D4 sensor.


I doubt Nikon will do that again as they did with the D3.

EBH



Dec 06, 2012 at 01:56 AM
ScottSchupbach
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #2 · just some daydreaming


I'm rooting for the D400, 16MP, with 8 FPS, with clean 3200 ISO, at $1800.00.

I'm also pretty sure it will never happen though.



Dec 06, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Smiert Spionam
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #3 · just some daydreaming


Seems likely to me that both will happen, sort of. Both will be in the D800 body -- as a 24mp DX, and (in about a year) the 16mp D4 FX sensor. The latter, especially, will not likely break 6mp without a grip, or 8 with.


Dec 06, 2012 at 03:39 AM
folsomwg
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #4 · just some daydreaming


Since we're dreaming: more F/1.2's


Dec 06, 2012 at 07:37 AM
Chris Dees
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #5 · just some daydreaming


Waiting for a high ISO, fast D400 to complement my D800E


Dec 06, 2012 at 08:55 AM
Gary Irwin
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #6 · just some daydreaming


Not really interested in a 7DII unless it comes with a completely new sensor design with much better noise and DR performance ... there are no indications that's going to happen so far.

As for the "D400, 16mp high ISO with at least 8fps"....I very much doubt ISO performance will be better than the D800 (which isn't really that good a the pixel level), so the only advantage over the D800 would be 2 FPS (DX mode) -- not really sufficient reason to spend $2k when for an extra $1k the D800 provides so much more versatility.

For me, the D400 will need to have 24MP with at least similar noise performance as the D800 and 8 FPS and "pro AF", otherwise l'd rather wait for a 36MP D4s.




Dec 06, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Kerry Pierce
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #7 · just some daydreaming


Wes Bailey wrote:
Although I just purchased an almost new used D700 -this is what I'd go for - take the D700 and drop in the D4 sensor.

EB-1 wrote:
I doubt Nikon will do that again as they did with the D3.

EBH


Not that I disagree with your doubts, EB, but which would be better, losing d4 sales to the d700II, losing d4 sales to Canon, or simply losing a sale because the d4 is too expensive for the vast majority of buyers?

IMO, it's much better to compete with yourself and sell everything that you possibly can, than to not compete and lose sales. But, WDIK?

Thanks to all that participated in the poll. The results are quite interesting and somewhat surprising to me. Dunno why, but I had expected a larger number of people buying both. Regardless, the number of players in the poll are more than expected, so thanks for that!

thanks
Kerry



Dec 06, 2012 at 11:43 PM
Andre Labonte
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #8 · just some daydreaming


^^^^
Kerry,

I could not agree more. I wish Nikon would get this concept. Stop worrying about parasitic loss from one of your own products by another of your own products. Better that than the competition. Thom Hogan has been harping on that now for years.

Cheers,
Andre



Dec 07, 2012 at 01:36 AM
 

Search in Used Dept. 



Andre Labonte
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #9 · just some daydreaming


One thing that this poll does show, there is much more demand for a D400 than one might think.


Dec 07, 2012 at 06:50 PM
Diavolo
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #10 · just some daydreaming


Bump the D400 to 21mp and I'm all over it.


Dec 07, 2012 at 07:31 PM
jhinkey
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #11 · just some daydreaming


I'd sell my d800 for a D700MKII if it had even better base ISO DR and lower high ISO noise. Not that I'm complaining about my D800, but I'd take the better image quality, especially if it kept most of the D800 features (except for live view of course)

I doubt this will happen any time soon.

I'd rather have Nikon come out with updates to their lenses like the 17-35AFS, 20/2.8D, 105/2D, 135/2D, etc.

John



Dec 07, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Gary Irwin
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #12 · just some daydreaming


jhinkey wrote:
I'd sell my d800 for a D700MKII if it had even better base ISO DR and lower high ISO noise. Not that I'm complaining about my D800, but I'd take the better image quality, especially if it kept most of the D800 features (except for live view of course)


+1 John....nice to dream, but not likely going to happen.



Dec 07, 2012 at 08:19 PM
SSISteve
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #13 · just some daydreaming


I would be all over a D400 if the high ISO performance was better and I would want at least 24 megapixels. I shoot
alot of wildlife and the ability to crop and still retain a lot of detail would be of huge interest since I can't afford a 500-600mm lens. I love my D300 but I am ready for a D400.

Steve



Dec 07, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Kerry Pierce
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #14 · just some daydreaming


SSISteve wrote:
I would be all over a D400 if the high ISO performance was better and I would want at least 24 megapixels. I shoot
alot of wildlife and the ability to crop and still retain a lot of detail would be of huge interest since I can't afford a 500-600mm lens. I love my D300 but I am ready for a D400.

Steve


Jim Pearce, an avid birder, is in complete agreement with you, as are a number of other folks wanting a high MP d400.

Personally, I am not confident that Nikon can do much improvement over the d300, with pixel density that high. My main questions on that would be for noise and then FPS. I wonder if they can move 24mp at 8fps or higher, while keeping the price reasonable. More importantly, do you like the noise performance of the d3200, especially when you talk about cropping?

I'm very anxious to see the noise performance of the new 24mp sensor in the d5200.

thanks
Kerry



Dec 07, 2012 at 09:20 PM
Andre Labonte
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #15 · just some daydreaming


I'm with Kerry, 24 on DX is not like 24 on FX. And to be honest, I don't want the huge 24MP file sucking up card and disk space and filling up the buffer. I'd be much happer with a 16MP D400 ... or hell, give me a 12MP D400 but with 2+ stops better high ISO performance over the D300 and 8 FPS and I would be tickled pink with purple poka dots.

Honestly, when you think about it, the D400 would be the pro-level the sports and wildlife camera of the DX line-up where ISO, AF performance and FPS are top concerns ... much like the D4. High MP are not needed and there are lower cost options to get the higher MP.

Like the D4/D800 relationship, I think DX should have a similar D400/D7200 relationship.



Dec 07, 2012 at 11:24 PM
1      
2
       end




FM Forums | Nikon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1      
2
       end
    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

Username   Password    Retrive password