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p.1 #1 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Some of you may know, most probably not- but I had LASIK done just over a year ago.

I am in the US Air Force, and one of the "perks" in our healthcare system is the possibility of getting free (yes, FREE) LASIK/PRK at one of the several US Military facilities around the world that can do it.
Currently, I'm stationed in Abilene, TX. I've been in for nearly 10 years, only been here ~2 of that. I have known about the possibility of getting LASIK for most of my career, and debated it- worried about being in the 1% or so that develops some complications of some sort.
Finally, about 18 months ago, I went and got started on the screening process. I had been told before that my eyes made me a perfect candidate, and the Dr. here reaffirmed this.

After several checkups to make sure my eyes were healthy, and i met all the criteria, i got my packet/appointment to go down to the Joint Warfighter Refractive Surgery Center at Lackland AFB in San Antonio. I was SUPER excited. This is (supposed to be) the BEST facility the military trusts for our eyes in the world- the only place that the DoD will let work on pilots' eyes. They pioneer procedures here. Pretty legit.

Well, I went down to San Antonio. Had SEVERAL more checkups over 3 days, FAR more in-depth than before. They offered me a custom wave-front(or something like that) map correction of my eye- something which is "better" than most LASIK clinics can or will offer. I opted in, of course!

Surgery went well. I was nearly in tears, when only a few minutes after- i saw perfect 20/15 uncorrected in both eyes.... for the first time in at least 15 years.
The next day, the Dr's seemed VERY impressed with my outcome, and cleared me to drive. Everything seemed great.
Over the next few months, I couldn't have been happier about my surgery. At night, there was some slight glare, but everything I was told led me to believe that was normal in the healing process. It wasn't until ~6 months, when the glare got worse, that I started to worry.
Initially, I was told it was Diffuse Lamellar Keratitis- a rare complication in which your eyes react to some foreign contaminant that was intruduced during the surgery. This was believable, and correctable (through more surgery). Gave me some hope.
Well, fast forward to today. We have a new Dr on my base, and I went in for my 1yr follow-up. He is FAR more concerned about my eyes. I spent about 2hrs at the clinic going through different stuff with him.
I do not have DLK. I never did. Instead, i just have large pupils- which i have always known, but never knew it was something that should keep you from getting LASIK.
Turns out, the largest diameter "burn" they can do on your eye is ~7-7.5mm. They did 7mm on me. My eyes, in a dim-dark room, are sitting at 8mm+.
What this means is that in bad light, my pupils open up wider than my corrected surgery site- so all of the sudden my vision goes from (good light) 20/15, to 20/15 with low contrast, starbursts, glare, you name it.

From what I was told, and from what I've read in the past few hours- there really is no fix. They ordered me another set of glasses with a very weak RX, thinking it may help some of the eye strain i get in low light, but it may not.

I will have to live with this the rest of my life, and it has already GREATLY effected my enjoyment of photography. Easily the worst decision I ever made, I'm extremely torn up over this. After little to no research (hindsight- ya know), I've found that this is commonly known but widely denied by the ophthalmological community...

In summary-
THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT ANY EYE SURGERY. I did not. I mean, I thought about it for years, but I did not do (enough) my homework as I should have. I am partially to blame for this, but I would like to have think the ~dozen of Doctors I saw should have warned me or talked to me about this risk.

http://www.lasikcomplications.com/largepupils.htm



Dec 04, 2012 at 01:27 AM
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p.1 #2 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Wowzers, not really OT I think since this would directly affect photography (as well as vision!)

I really hope you're able to at least abate these issues - that really sucks

I read some of the page you link - have they tried giving you the drops that contract the pupils somewhat, for night vision?

I also have to wonder if a custom pair of glasses would work, with small LEDs (variable) that could shine into the user's eyes, just enough to contract the pupils.


Either way, I feel bad for you. I'm also in the USAF BTW - over here at Barksdale for a few more months, then out to Kirtland.



Dec 04, 2012 at 02:27 AM
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p.1 #3 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


I'm so sorry. I don't think it's OT at all either. Lasiks came up here not too long ago and, as I recall, many that chimed in had fairly positive outcomes. I have thought about getting it done at some point, as are, I'm sure, many around here. This is the first really negative, first hand experience I have heard. Thanks for making me aware of the potential risks. Hopefully, something can be done to help your case.


Dec 04, 2012 at 02:57 AM
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p.1 #4 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Sad to hear, of course, but thanks for sharing that.


Dec 04, 2012 at 03:01 AM
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p.1 #5 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


The military has made great advance in vision correction. The scarring from old Radial K would make your vision change with altitude, go up high enough and you could not see up close only at distance.
Unfortunately the research is primarily for Pilots, to keep them flying as they age. All of them use night vision and lighted instruments and they minimize pupilary dilation. So this is not a commonly discussed issue.

Good Luck with your vision, I hope you can find a solution that helps.



Dec 04, 2012 at 03:02 AM
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p.1 #6 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


that sucks... I'm not a doctor so I cant offer anything but my best wishes for improvement and thanks for the warning.
Dont beat yourself up about it, it wont change anything and it wasnt your fault. You're not a doctor and you have to trust your specialists, it was their cock up



Dec 04, 2012 at 03:03 AM
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p.1 #7 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Really sorry to hear that.
Hope they can fit this problem for you.
Thanks for sharing this with us and you can not blame yourself as we are not eye specialists and can not always know all the potential problems.



Dec 04, 2012 at 03:04 AM
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p.1 #8 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Wow, thank you for posting. I am also very sorry about this. Hopefully in the near future there will be a good solution for you... Contacts that restrict how much light enters the pupils? I dunno.

And slightly OT, but thank you for your service. JL, thank you also.



Dec 04, 2012 at 03:48 AM
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p.1 #9 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Sorry to hear that. Would it help to use a camera with EVF and set the brightness to higher level?


Dec 04, 2012 at 04:02 AM
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p.1 #10 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Thank you!


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p.1 #11 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


I had surgery some 15 years ago and prior to underwent several test where the Dr. dialated my eyes to confirm the maximum call it aperture the iris would reach.
Did they not perform/confirm this on you ?



Dec 04, 2012 at 04:18 AM
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p.1 #12 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


I thought the military preferred PRK? Hopefully they find a fix.


Dec 04, 2012 at 04:20 AM
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p.1 #13 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Ok, I think I will keep my glasses..

Its like buying brand new camera, just way more dangerous.

Sorry to hear that. Didnt knew much about this stuff before, so thank you..



Dec 04, 2012 at 04:32 AM
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p.1 #14 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Certainly a very unfortunate situation..hopefully a possible fix ..
but for me..I'd do it again in a heart beat and I had to have one eye tweaked 4 times and the other 3.
I was -5.75 and -6.25 and the outcome was 20/15.
Now old age is coming into play and I wear progressives and just hate them...



Dec 04, 2012 at 04:39 AM
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p.1 #15 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Ouch man, that really sucks. Hopefully they think of something to fix that someday, what about tinted lens that basically would basically decrease light hitting your eye (a forced shading around the edges of your iris so the defracting light never reaches your retina in the first place)


Dec 04, 2012 at 04:50 AM
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p.1 #16 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


This is a tragic story and my hopes and prayers go out to ISO1600. I have attached a link to an excellent web site that discusses the problem and also shows some of the horrible effects the OP and others with large pupils are suffering.

http://www.lasikcomplications.com/largepupils.htm

To ISO1600 I would suggest that in addition to medical health you seek some legal advice as pointed out in the article. I am the last person to involve lawyers and threaten lawsuits but the effects of this are so severe as to be classified as a disability. Best of luck.

Dave



Dec 04, 2012 at 05:19 AM
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p.1 #17 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Chris, I am so sorry to hear about this. It breaks my heart, truly. Forget photography for a second; we use our eyes for everything. I hope you are doing as much research as you can, and thinking about what to do from here and not concentrating too much on what's been done (although that's easier said than done). You should definitely not be blaming yourself. You know where to find me if need be. And thanks for putting this up for everyone to read. Takes courage to do so.


Dec 04, 2012 at 06:56 AM
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p.1 #18 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Sorry to hear about your situation, I hope a solution will present it's self.


Dec 04, 2012 at 07:19 AM
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p.1 #19 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Sorry for the dupe

Edited on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:53 AM · View previous versions



Dec 04, 2012 at 07:51 AM
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p.1 #20 · possibly OT, but LASIK warning


Thanks, ISO1600. I've been really reluctant to do this, and this is the nail in the coffin. No surgery for me!!!!!

ETA: And many condolences!!!!

Edited on Dec 07, 2012 at 10:42 AM · View previous versions



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