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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · More pancakes please!


I'd really like to see canon put out some more pancake lenses. I use my 40 often as a lens and body cap and would like some other choices for FL. Ideally an EF-S 14, EF 20, and ~EF 100. I'm not too concerned with speed although 2.8 would be great. Price is not a major concern if they stay below $400 each...

Anyone else waiting for a few more choices?



Dec 04, 2012 at 12:15 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · More pancakes please!


Yes, I would like to see more pancake lenses from Canon. I own both 35L and 50L and, surprisingly, I'm happy with the 40mm.

I don't know if they can do one as wide as 20mm or as long as 100mm. Something in the focal length of 20-24mm would be nice.



Dec 04, 2012 at 12:39 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · More pancakes please!


You'll have to wait till Canon merges with I-HOP


Dec 04, 2012 at 12:46 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · More pancakes please!


Good point...I guess I'd really like to see a ef-s 14 pancake lens for rebel sized cameras...that and the 40 would make a great crop sensor kit.


Dec 04, 2012 at 12:48 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · More pancakes please!


An ~20mm pancake prime has been done several times in the past (e.g. Olympus Zuiko 21/3.5 and Voigtlander 20/3.5 SL-II are quite compact), so this is quite possible. A 100mm lens several times shorter than its focal length would be more an (unlikely) unprecedented accomplishment. Olympus made a rather compact 100/2.8, but "rather compact" in this case means almost as small as a typical 50mm lens, not pancake-sized.


Dec 04, 2012 at 12:55 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · More pancakes please!


An EF 14mm f4 or f5.6 would do me!


Dec 04, 2012 at 01:13 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · More pancakes please!


The retrofocus design for wide angle requires a lot more elements in order to get enough distance between the rear element and the CMOS plane. More elements means a longer barrel is needed to house those elements. It would be possible for the EOS-M since there is no mirror box to worry about (hence retrofocus not needed).


Dec 04, 2012 at 01:31 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · More pancakes please!


28mm pancake would be interesting too, Industar (USSR) has done them in the past.



Dec 04, 2012 at 01:44 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · More pancakes please!


mpmendenhall wrote:
An ~20mm pancake prime has been done several times in the past (e.g. Olympus Zuiko 21/3.5 and Voigtlander 20/3.5 SL-II are quite compact), so this is quite possible. A 100mm lens several times shorter than its focal length would be more an (unlikely) unprecedented accomplishment. Olympus made a rather compact 100/2.8, but "rather compact" in this case means almost as small as a typical 50mm lens, not pancake-sized.


I'm thinking of something for a full frame Canon DSLR. So, Gochugogi already has an explanation for it.



Dec 04, 2012 at 01:44 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · More pancakes please!


Any chance of a 400/2.8 pancake?

EBH



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Wahoowa wrote:
I'm thinking of something for a full frame Canon DSLR. So, Gochugogi already has an explanation for it.


The Oly 21/3.5 and CV 20/3.5 SL-II that I referenced are both FF lenses (that can be adapted or are native mount for Canon EF), so pancakes in this range are definitely possible (though pushing up against design limitations for the reasons Gochugogi mentioned). A 14mm lens along these lines might just be possible for EF-s (assuming mirror clearance is scaled proportionally with the 1.6x crop --- what's the actual mirror clearance on EF-s?), though not for FF.

EB-1 wrote:
Any chance of a 400/2.8 pancake?


Only if you're hungry for a giant, all-you-can-eat pancakes stack



Dec 04, 2012 at 01:58 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · More pancakes please!


EEww no...... not at the current aperture and price. . There is no reason the current 40 couldn't have been an f/2.0 instead of 2.8

at f/2, I would have purchased one at $249. 2.8 at $200, sorry count me out. The 50 1.8 is by far the better deal.

RE: 400 2.8 pancake, WOW, quantum optics have arrived! WOO HOO! Now if they would hurry and get that Heisenberg viewfinder ready.



Dec 04, 2012 at 05:06 PM
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darknite wrote:
EEww no...... not at the current aperture and price. . There is no reason the current 40 couldn't have been an f/2.0 instead of 2.8

at f/2, I would have purchased one at $249. 2.8 at $200, sorry count me out. The 50 1.8 is by far the better deal.

RE: 400 2.8 pancake, WOW, quantum optics have arrived! WOO HOO! Now if they would hurry and get that Heisenberg viewfinder ready.


The EF 40 2.8 has been $149 for a long time now. $199 was the special price for early adopters.



Dec 04, 2012 at 05:09 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · More pancakes please!


The instant rebate suggests the EF40 2.8 may go up to $199 in January. Guess its time to buy Christmas present for myself.


Dec 04, 2012 at 06:06 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · More pancakes please!


i'd love to see a 24mm f2.8 pancake

won't happen since they just made this lens with IS, which i don't care about and don't wanna pay for. no biggie though



Dec 04, 2012 at 06:48 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · More pancakes please!


WAYCOOL wrote:
The instant rebate suggests the EF40 2.8 may go up to $199 in January. Guess its time to buy Christmas present for myself.


IMO this lens is worth every penny at $200, and is an absolute steal at $150. treat yourself



Dec 04, 2012 at 06:48 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · More pancakes please!


mpmendenhall wrote:
The Oly 21/3.5 and CV 20/3.5 SL-II that I referenced are both FF lenses (that can be adapted or are native mount for Canon EF), so pancakes in this range are definitely possible (though pushing up against design limitations for the reasons Gochugogi mentioned). A 14mm lens along these lines might just be possible for EF-s (assuming mirror clearance is scaled proportionally with the 1.6x crop --- what's the actual mirror clearance on EF-s?), though not for FF.


I'm not familiar with Olympus system, so I thought it was for a four-third system. Sorry for the mistake. Still, that lens is pretty thick. Now, I wonder how "thin" of a lens to qualify as a pancake lens.


WAYCOOL wrote:
The instant rebate suggests the EF40 2.8 may go up to $199 in January. Guess its time to buy Christmas present for myself.


And Canon just might extend it again.


goosemang wrote:
IMO this lens is worth every penny at $200, and is an absolute steal at $150. treat yourself


I agree!



Dec 04, 2012 at 07:04 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · More pancakes please!


The whole Zuiko line is FF compatible (film... ) and very compact. So.....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Dec 06, 2012 at 01:43 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · More pancakes please!


EB-1 wrote:
Any chance of a 400/2.8 pancake?

EBH


Rumor has it that the 300/2.8 IS is coming out first.

I'll be trading mine in as soon as it's released.



Dec 06, 2012 at 02:18 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · More pancakes please!


I doubt we'll see a sub-20mm pancake, but i would love a small 14-18mm prime for an affordable price. Speed would not be much concern, as long as it is small, AF, and "cheap".


Dec 06, 2012 at 05:14 PM





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