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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Hey everyone, thinking of getting a 5D Mark II ( can't afford a 5D Mark III ) for hockey pictures of my son, who plays goal. I know, it's not a sports shooter camera, but I figured the goalie doesn't really move fast and the AF system should have no problem. I won't be photographing other fast moving players and I hear the high ISO performance is amazing.....any comments or suggestions ?


Dec 03, 2012 at 03:29 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Why don't you get a 7D instead? It's better for hockey and cheaper.


Dec 03, 2012 at 03:58 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Agree, 7D is a better fit, and although the higher ISO's may not be on par the 7D isn't that far behind.


Dec 03, 2012 at 04:05 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Actually the 5D will crucify the 7D for most hockey arenas. I'm saying this being very very honest. I'd probably tell you to actually buy a 6D for cost wise.

Reasoning being the noise on the 7D is horrible. Most arenas you'll be in are not exactly bright and you'll need to push the ISO quite often.

I'd probably recommend that you look at the 135mm F2 or the 200mm F2.8 to go along with it since it will work rather perfectly. I've used the combo before myself and it didn't have any problem at all.

I would avoid the 7D at all costs for hockey. The 6D would be a better fit as it's performance is definitely a peg above the 5D Mark II.



Dec 03, 2012 at 04:19 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Cicopo wrote:
Agree, 7D is a better fit, and although the higher ISO's may not be on par the 7D isn't that far behind.


Not far behind? Not suer what world you live on but the 7D is already noisy as all heck at ISO 800. It's honestly the kind of camera that if you want clean results you must stick at 400 or lower.



Dec 03, 2012 at 04:20 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 5D Mark II for hockey


I used my 5d2 for my goalie son for about a year. Works fine if you use center point focus only and way better ISO performance than the 7d in the crappy lit rinks. Just replaced it with a 5d3 couple weeks ago but used it solidly for a year before that. Don't let the nay sayers deter you, this is through the glass with a 70-200 IS II ISO 4000 and 5d2 a month ago




Dec 03, 2012 at 05:05 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 5D Mark II for hockey


equestrianguy wrote:
The 6D would be a better fit as it's performance is definitely a peg above the 5D Mark II.


yes, of course it cost more than the 5D2



Dec 03, 2012 at 01:34 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 5D Mark II for hockey


I wouldn't exactly call the 7D awful. Sure there's noise, but it can be managed.

If I was only interested in the goalie though, I'd probably go for the 5DII. Skaters I think I'd rather the 7D fps and probably overall better AF.

Where will you shoot from? Make sure 200mm is long enough with FF from your shooting position. This was shot from the bench just over the blue line, 200mm equivalent and still cropped.

(7D, 70-200II, ISO4000, f/3.2, 1/500)



Mark



Dec 03, 2012 at 02:01 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Another Goalie dad voting for the 5DII I miss that hockey rink coffee.


Dec 03, 2012 at 02:51 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Really confused why one would spend $1500 on a 5D Mark II instead of $2000 on the 6D to get better performance. That's just me but the 5D Mark II is way better than the 7D in this respect.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 5D Mark II for hockey


I shoot Hockey with the 7d and have no issues at all. Focus is on the button, sharp images with the 70-200 2.8L and 300 2.8L. fwiw


Dec 03, 2012 at 04:50 PM
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equestrianguy wrote:
Actually the 5D will crucify the 7D for most hockey arenas. I'm saying this being very very honest. I'd probably tell you to actually buy a 6D for cost wise.

Reasoning being the noise on the 7D is horrible. Most arenas you'll be in are not exactly bright and you'll need to push the ISO quite often.

I'd probably recommend that you look at the 135mm F2 or the 200mm F2.8 to go along with it since it will work rather perfectly. I've used the combo before myself and it didn't have any problem at all.

I would avoid the 7D at all
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I still love my 5DII but you must hate 7D!!


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Dec 04, 2012 at 03:27 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 5D Mark II for hockey


He must have bought a really sick 7D.

Accidentally shot at ISO 1600.



And intentionally shot at ISO 3200. (and the full files look fine to me or I wouldn't use them).








Dec 04, 2012 at 03:56 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 5D Mark II for hockey


maybe its just me both those are all oof...


Dec 04, 2012 at 06:18 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Thanks for all the different opinions and insights folks. I should have mentioned I was looking at full frame only so the 7d is out ( even though the pics looked amazing at high ISO's ). The 5D II goalie shot is clean as well and that's the quality I would be looking at.
The 6D looks very interesting and will be watching for some reviews on it, more concerned on how the outer focusing points perform. High ISO performance would be no problem I assume.
pizdets17, did you ever use the outer points for hockey on your 5D II ? I know that 90% of the time I use the center point to focus but for the odd vertical shot I move the focusing point over 1 or 2 notches to ensure the face is in focus.
I am currently using my 1D III and the 70-200 IS II, which is no slouch, but do want to have the FF body and better 6400ISO files.



Dec 04, 2012 at 01:51 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 5D Mark II for hockey


If you want better 6400 ISO files you should move to 5DIII or perhaps 1D IV. I don't know much about 6D. Remember, the price of that camera at least from what I see at B&H at $2099, is not much of a deal over the other models discussed. $2099 for 6D makes 5D III at $2999 (again @ B&H), seem like a bargain!


Dec 04, 2012 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 5D Mark II for hockey


Center point AF on 6d is supposed to be sensitive to -3EV, vs. -1EV on your 1d m3 and -.5EV on the 5d2. It's dark in most rinks, right? I think the 6d should be on your (extremely) short list and is probably the best overall choice for your needs.




Dec 04, 2012 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 5D Mark II for hockey


pizdets17 wrote:
maybe its just me both those are all oof...


I think the lens used has something to do with the softness. It was the Tamron 18-270 VC at 18 mm and because I wasn't expecting an air show that trip I only took the 7D & that lens. I made do with what I had & don't think they are too noisy for the majority of viewers.



Dec 04, 2012 at 04:40 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 5D Mark II for hockey


canonguy4ever wrote:
I am currently using my 1D III and the 70-200 IS II, which is no slouch, but do want to have the FF body and better 6400ISO files.


It's funny, as I progressed through various xxD bodies (10D, 30D, 40D) the high ISO got better and there were fewer rinks where I wouldn't bother even taking photos. Then the 7D gave me about another stop or so to play with. And my kids grew up - my son is 21 and doesn't play anymore, and my daughter is a junior in high school and playing at the U19 level. At least with the older kids, they turn on most of the lights. I don't think we play anywhere that I have to go above ISO4000, but some of those same rinks look like dungeons when the little kids are playing.

Mark



Dec 04, 2012 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 5D Mark II for hockey


center point only as the others can be flaky. But now that you can find a 5d2 for $12-1300 who cares!


Dec 05, 2012 at 03:56 AM
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