I'm one of those guys that loves his 5DII despite all the negatives. I've owned a lot of L lenses and never really loved the colors. When I switched to Zeiss lenses that changed. I'm perfectly happy now.
Btw: I just received an x-rite colorchecker passport today. I'm going to experiment with making my own profiles (for 5DII and Fuji X-E1).
carstenw wrote
So, send the 5DII back now
The friend whom i borrowed it from is currently in thailand, taking pictures with my old nex-3 so that isn't really an option. I think i will have to use it now and then for the next few months, too sad
Regarding color-profiles: There must be some color-profiles for ACR, can anyone recommend one? Are they a real improvement over the supplied ones? ACR's default profile fir the nex-5n is pretty bad when reds are involved, in 4.1 or so they gave us some camera-profiles which are much better. I don't know how big the difference would be with the 5d2.
I have been using my own. They have some unexpected side effects like more detail in overexposed highlights and I like the color balance better than the canned profiles from ACR/LR. But are they really, objectively better? I don't know.
You can make them with Xrite Passport or with Gretag-Macbeth/Xrite color checker and free calibration software from labs.adobe.com. The key is to make sure that the target is very evenly lit. Some pictures - mostly made with my profiles and very minimal LR processing - can be seen here.
Mirek Elsner wrote:
I have been using my own. They have some unexpected side effects like more detail in overexposed highlights and I like the color balance better than the canned profiles from ACR/LR. But are they really, objectively better? I don't know.
You can make them with Xrite Passport or with Gretag-Macbeth/Xrite color checker and free calibration software from labs.adobe.com. The key is to make sure that the target is very evenly lit. Some pictures - mostly made with my profiles and very minimal LR processing - can be seen here.
Would you mind sharing you profile? Nice pictures on your website with great colors!
carstenw wrote:
Since the 5DII isn't the greatest camera for colour, why not look at other, stronger areas of the FF experience, such as boke?
that's my plan, as soon as i can afford it i will buy the samyang 35/1.4 and leitax my 58/1.2.
Haven't given up on colors though: It seems to be a challenge but i haven't researched it enough yet.
Sure, try this. I think it was made with Zeiss lens on the camera, but I used it with Canon 70-200 zoom as well, so it should work. Any feedback would be appreciated.
I am not entirely happy with my post processing, but thanks for the compliment
Phillip Reeve wrote:
that's the reason, the 5d2 is borrowed from a friend for 6 or 7 months and then i will have to give it back. For me it is a chance to see how much the benefits of a fullframe camera are worth for me, but i won't invest much money in this system.
If i felt that carrying a big slr around was a good idea and someone gave me 5000€ i would probably get a Nikon d800 because of its Sony sensor.
Since I have a 5D MKII, I will chime in with a little advice. I see a couple of things in the first shots. I think you could stop down a bit more. I don't think the shallow depth of field is sufficiently compensated for in some of the shots that were the weakest. The 5D MKII has the pixel density of an 8 megapixel crop camera, so there is room to stop down to even F11 with little loss due to diffraction. Second, I think the shots could be exposed a bit farther to the right. That definitely helps with Canon sensor. Finally, the best lenses for colour on Canon in my experience have ben Leica and not Zeiss. Zeiss is great for microcontrast and I have moved this direction, but if you want great colours I would recommend getting Leica. The Rokkor 58 f/1.2 is great as well, but instead of the Samyang 35 f/1.4 you might try a Leica R latest version 35mm f/2.8 (to stay in budget). It ought to be a similar if not lower price than the Samyang.
As a fellow NEX shooter myself, really the only reason I'm contemplating adding a full-frame SLR is specifically to be able to shoot a 35 1.4 wide open, which is a look that I don't think is achievable on the NEX without stitching. It'll be interesting to see if your thoughts on the Canon change after you get the Samyang. Also, for this reason, I'd personally go with the Samyang vs a Leica 35/2.8, because I think a 35/2.8 is a look that's achievable on NEX (the Sony 24/1.8, for example).
Certainly there are other things a full frame SLR would do better than the NEX (fast sports, ultra wide-angles), but they aren't of too much interest to me.
Phillip Reeve wrote:
I got an glassless adapter for my Minolta lenses,
Where did get that from?
Can you only use it for close up focus, and not far focus?
I have a 5DMkII for quite some time.
I don't have nothing to compare it too, until a recent Kodak SLR/C, which I need to shoot more.
The only thing I can add is that the 5DMkII files cannot be pushed, hardly at all.
With the latest version of ACR, it can seemingly, to me, recover highlights quite well.
I also like alt glass better, my favorites are my Leica R, C/Y Zeiss, and Minolta Rokkor glass.
Though, I do like a couple of my Canon L glass, 200/1.8, and 50/1.0, but these are almost totally different than any new L glass, I'm guessing.
Just my humble experience, as I don't think I'm any where near the level you guys are.
Oh, I also can't stand to use DPP.
And I have only played a bit with C1, need to try it more too, it's just ACR has soo much control.
