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p.1 #1 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

I came across a few threads about the need for an update from Nikon for the 135 F2. I know Canon makes a 135mm F2 lens that is pretty small and compact and has only 72mm front threads. Would a 135mm F1.4 nikkor lens with 77mm front threads be possible and/or likely? I was just thinking what a sweet addition to an F1.4 prime collection that would make. 24, 50, 85, 135 all at F1.4 would be pretty sweet! Curious to hear if such a lens design is possible while retaining 77mm filter threads and being priced under $2g. cheers -L

Nov 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM

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p.1 #2 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

couldn't see that happening. It would be huge. It certainly would cost well over $2k. An F2 patent is around even that will be $2k or more if it has all the goodies.

Nov 16, 2012 at 11:37 PM

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p.1 #3 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Why anyone needs to shoot long FL such as 135mm at f1.4? That's just beyond me.

Nov 16, 2012 at 11:54 PM

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p.1 #4 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

mshi wrote:
Why anyone needs to shoot long FL such as 135mm at f1.4? That's just beyond me.

someone who desires the "one eyelash in focus" *look*

Nov 16, 2012 at 11:58 PM

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p.1 #5 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

77mm front threads? Aside from any design considerations that might increase the size of the front element, the mathematical minimum size the front element would have to be is 135mm / 1.4 = 96.4mm, not that far from the size of the 200mm f/2. That's the very smallest of could be, and most large aperture lenses have larger front elements because of the complexities in lens design.

Nov 16, 2012 at 11:59 PM

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p.1 #6 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

More likely 135mm with size of 200 VR?

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:01 AM

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p.1 #7 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Loren E wrote:
Would a 135mm F1.4 nikkor lens with 77mm front threads be possible and/or likely

Not possible. Would be close to 100mm for a standard front filter.

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:01 AM

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p.1 #8 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Nikon has a patent filed for a 135/1.8AFS lens -

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/09/nikon-135mm-f1-8-lens-patent.aspx/

VR and likely nano-coating.

Hopefully that will come out sometime soon. I like my 135/2 AIS (better than the 135/2D DC BTW), but accurate AF wide open is a must with this lens and I hope with some aspherics thrown in this lens will be able to have high AF accuracy (i.e., lack of residual spherical aberrations wide open).

And boy would a 135/1.4 be huge as others have pointed out. F/1.8 at 135mm is fast enough for me!

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:08 AM

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p.1 #9 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

jmcfadden wrote:
mshi wrote:
Why anyone needs to shoot long FL such as 135mm at f1.4? That's just beyond me.

someone who desires the "one eyelash in focus" *look*

J

but that can be easily done in Photoshop in less than two seconds.

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Nov 17, 2012 at 12:10 AM

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p.1 #10 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Cool thanks for the info folks. I thought since the Canon 135 F2 is pretty small, affordable, and only 72mm front threads, that it could be possible, but it sounds like I was underestimating the difference between F2 and F1.4.

mshi wrote:
Why anyone needs to shoot long FL such as 135mm at f1.4? That's just beyond me.

My personal specific interest would be for shooting concerts with it, as in these low light situations I find F2.8 to really struggle and often times getting close enough for a tight shot with an 85mm isn't possible.

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Nov 17, 2012 at 12:10 AM

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p.1 #11 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Sh*t, it's not even OFFERED...and people already wanna put a freakin' filter on it

f1.4 is not gonna happen, but the f1.8 is certainly doable. I'd personally kill for one, just sayin'

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:12 AM

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p.1 #12 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Loren E wrote:
Cool thanks for the info folks. I thought since the Canon 135 F2 is pretty small, affordable, and only 72mm front threads, that it could be possible, but it sounds like I was underestimating the difference between F2 and F4.

mshi wrote:
Why anyone needs to shoot long FL such as 135mm at f1.4? That's just beyond me.

My personal specific interest would be for shooting concerts with it, as in these low light situations I find F2.8 to really struggle and often times getting close enough for a tight shot with an 85mm isn't possible.

The 200 would be awful long for a concert. I have pretty good luck with the 85 f1.4 and some cropping

J

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:14 AM

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p.1 #13 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Loren E wrote:
Cool thanks for the info folks. I thought since the Canon 135 F2 is pretty small, affordable, and only 72mm front threads, that it could be possible, but it sounds like I was underestimating the difference between F2 and F4.

According to the patent Nikon filed a couple years ago, the next Nikon 135mm VR will be f/1.8 with generous use of the SuperED glass element, which is only used so far on 200/2 VR Nikkor. You can guess how much it will cost.

My personal specific interest would be for shooting concerts with it, as in these low light situations I find F2.8 to really struggle and often times getting close enough for a tight shot with an 85mm isn't possible.

You can always shoot higher ISO, such as ISO 25600, with f2 or f2.8 glass.

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:16 AM

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p.1 #14 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

trenchmonkey wrote:
Sh*t, it's not even OFFERED...and people already wanna put a freakin' filter on it

f1.4 is not gonna happen, but the f1.8 is certainly doable. I'd personally kill for one, just sayin'

What's wrong with putting a CPL on it for f/1.8 landscapes . . .

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:45 AM

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p.1 #15 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

jhinkey wrote:

What's wrong with putting a CPL on it for f/1.8 landscapes . . .

J

Priceless.

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:47 AM

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p.1 #16 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

mshi wrote:
jhinkey wrote:

What's wrong with putting a CPL on it for f/1.8 landscapes . . .

J

Priceless.

Hey, I said it because I'm crazy enough to do such a thing . . .

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:48 AM

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p.1 #17 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

jhinkey wrote:
Hey, I said it because I'm crazy enough to do such a thing . . .

I am so sorry.

Nov 17, 2012 at 12:59 AM

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p.1 #18 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

mshi wrote:
jhinkey wrote:
Hey, I said it because I'm crazy enough to do such a thing . . .

I am so sorry.

Some times so am I!

But seriously, a sharp wide open 135/1.8AFS VR would be the bees knees for some of the things I do that are not landscapes . . .

Nov 17, 2012 at 01:02 AM

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p.1 #19 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

mshi wrote:
Loren E wrote:
Cool thanks for the info folks. I thought since the Canon 135 F2 is pretty small, affordable, and only 72mm front threads, that it could be possible, but it sounds like I was underestimating the difference between F2 and F4.

According to the patent Nikon filed a couple years ago, the next Nikon 135mm VR will be f/1.8 with generous use of the SuperED glass element, which is only used so far on 200/2 VR Nikkor. You can guess how much it will cost.

My personal specific interest would be for shooting concerts with it, as in these low light situations I find F2.8 to really struggle and often times getting close enough for a tight shot with an 85mm isn't possible.

You can always shoot higher ISO, such as ISO 25600, with f2 or f2.8 glass.

I have a D7000 and 70-200 2.8 but stop ISO at 6400 if I want photos that will clean up nicely....25,600 is definitely not in the cards for the results I am seeking!

Nov 17, 2012 at 01:34 AM

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p.1 #20 · Is a 135mm F1.4 lens possible/likely?

Loren E wrote:

I have a D7000 and 70-200 2.8 but stop ISO at 6400 if I want photos that will clean up nicely....25,600 is definitely not in the cards for the results I am seeking!

then upgrade to either a D3s or D4.

Nov 17, 2012 at 01:58 AM

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