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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 5d3 hockey settings


Went out for the first time with my new 5d3 (upgraded from a 5d2) and exactly what I thought would happen happened. Soft OOF pics. The AF system is obviously much more complicated than its predecessor. Is there any optimal settings for hockey that I should know about his thing? Only as far as AF is concerned that is. I used AI Servo, tried a few of the pre-set modes and what I got was 80% rubbish. Any help would be appreciated.


Nov 16, 2012 at 04:07 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 5d3 hockey settings


here is an example straight out of the camera.





Nov 16, 2012 at 04:18 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 5d3 hockey settings


It's not that bad..you could sharpen in post and improve.. Has the lens been ma'd ?


Nov 16, 2012 at 04:33 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 5d3 hockey settings


no, it never needed it with any of the bodies I have used it with...I was getting sharper photos with my 5d2 in one shot mode..


Nov 16, 2012 at 04:50 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 5d3 hockey settings


Each and every body is different and I'll bet it needs it..Focal is your friend...come north 2.3 hrs and I'll tweak it for ya


Nov 16, 2012 at 04:51 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 5d3 hockey settings


haha I have focal, I will try it tomorrow but I dont thing thats the problem. I took a shot of a brick wall at f2.8 at 12800 iso and its tack sharp, with same lens at 1/40


Nov 16, 2012 at 04:55 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 5d3 hockey settings


Better







Nov 16, 2012 at 04:55 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 5d3 hockey settings


I know stupid question but did you shoot through the glass ?


Nov 16, 2012 at 04:58 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 5d3 hockey settings


yes and that pic looks horrible lol. did you just jack the sharpness to 150% lol? This is just me not knowing how to use this new 61 point af..


Nov 16, 2012 at 05:04 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 5d3 hockey settings


You shot through the glass ? hmmmm...horrible...yes


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 5d3 hockey settings


yep just like i have for hundreds of other shots. Like this one





Nov 16, 2012 at 07:12 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 5d3 hockey settings


Seems like it's working fine for you What's the problem? Try using the 'H' setting. (j/k)


Nov 16, 2012 at 06:45 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 5d3 hockey settings


I have a 1D X that I've been trying to dial in for ice hockey. I have used the 5d3 but not for hockey. I have been using Case 4 with AF Area set to AF Point Expansion (8 Point). My problem is trying to keep focus on the subject I want and not have it jump around. I'm using a 70-200mm f2.8 L and it focuses super fast...too fast in some cases where it was grabbing a subject in the background. Not sure that any of this addresses your posted picture. BTW...I have to shoot through the glass most of the time too!

If you haven't already read it...try downing loading the 1D X Focus Guide. It's on the Canon site under the 1D X.



Nov 16, 2012 at 06:56 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 5d3 hockey settings


I have the 70-200mk2. Are you using center points? Already read that, confused me even more lol


Nov 16, 2012 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 5d3 hockey settings


Jeffrey wrote:
Seems like it's working fine for you What's the problem? Try using the 'H' setting. (j/k)

This was with 5d2, I cant get anything even close with same lens on 5d3 hence the problem



Nov 16, 2012 at 08:41 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 5d3 hockey settings


If you're shooting through glass then forget about ultimate sharpness, seriously. I shoot hockey a lot for my friend who plays on a college team, I always try to stand somewhere up in the stands or shoot from the bench where the players are so I'm not shooting through any glass at all. It absolutely will murder contrast and sharpness.


Nov 16, 2012 at 09:22 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 5d3 hockey settings


I use my 5d3 for all my hockey stuff, and have loved it. When the season started, though, I was using my 70-200 2.8 IS II and hated it. The focusing seemed very slow and inaccurate. Recently I have switched to my 70-200 f/4IS and I have loved it. Personal preference, I guess. Anyways, I have been using AI servo and case 4 with good results. I shoot from the penalty box instead of through the glass, which helps tremendously. I'll try to remember to post some shots later in the day, when I get a chance. I have been shooting f/4, 1/1000, ISO 10,000 with good luck.


Nov 16, 2012 at 09:26 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 5d3 hockey settings


"If you're shooting through glass then forget about ultimate sharpness, seriously. I shoot hockey a lot for my friend who plays on a college team, I always try to stand somewhere up in the stands or shoot from the bench where the players are so I'm not shooting through any glass at all. It absolutely will murder contrast and sharpness."


well if you read the thread I posted two photos, shot from the same location, with two different cameras. The 4 yr old 5d2 is sharp, the 5d3 is not. I was asking for help with setting if somebody shoots hockey with this camera, you are telling me there is no way to get a sharp shot through the glass?



Nov 16, 2012 at 11:38 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 5d3 hockey settings


Iso 10000? Wow, I would definetly like to see those! I usually shoot 1/640 iso4000 f2.8. I can shoot from the players box but like the closeness the glass offers. I will try Case 4 next time.


Bjamieson wrote:
I use my 5d3 for all my hockey stuff, and have loved it. When the season started, though, I was using my 70-200 2.8 IS II and hated it. The focusing seemed very slow and inaccurate. Recently I have switched to my 70-200 f/4IS and I have loved it. Personal preference, I guess. Anyways, I have been using AI servo and case 4 with good results. I shoot from the penalty box instead of through the glass, which helps tremendously. I'll try to remember to post some shots later in the day, when I get a chance. I have been
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Nov 16, 2012 at 11:42 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 5d3 hockey settings


Will is correct though. Whenever you shoot through the glass you are going through 1/2" or more of non-photographic glass/acrylic that has any number of smudges and puck marks on it. Not to mention background reflections as well. It's going to affect AF sometimes and you are not going to get "ultimate" sharpness. You're hoping for acceptable sharpness that will look good in whatever output medium your photos will be used in. It's a tradeoff for getting ice level access.

I've been using case 4 for hockey with 4 point expansion. I've found I had better results setting the tracking sensitivity to -1 or -2.



Nov 17, 2012 at 02:34 PM
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