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tmpollard
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Landscapes and waterfalls


Any recommendations for a really good ultra wide angle lens for landscapes and waterfalls that wont break the bank. Nikon as well as Sigma, Tokina and Tamron are ok with me. What are your thoughts?


Nov 13, 2012 at 04:59 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Landscapes and waterfalls


If you like using filters, your options really are limited IMO. The Nikon 16-35 VR is excellent for its price.

If no filters, I would say the Rokinon 14 2.8 is a really good lens, so is the 16-28 Tokina. The Nikon 14-24 is still the best of the bunch I think.



Nov 13, 2012 at 05:08 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Landscapes and waterfalls


FX or DX?


Nov 13, 2012 at 05:33 AM
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You care about auto focus? If not, I can't say enough good things about the Tokina 17mm 3.5 RMC lens. I have used it with a 1Ds, an F5 and now my D700. Here are some shots with this lens..

Taken with film - Nikon F5






Taken with Canon 1Ds







Nov 13, 2012 at 05:45 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Landscapes and waterfalls


@vchowdhary, filters or no filters i'm ok with either one. I'll look up the lenses you mentioned and price them.

@ Krickett, I currently have a DX D5000, awaiting a D7000 replacement, I like the body size on that camera.

@Dustin, your photos are absolutely amazing. If I could ever just take one photo that looks like yours I would be on cloud 9. Will the lens you mentioned work on a DX body?





Nov 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Landscapes and waterfalls


Ok...for DX I would look at the following.

11-16 Tokina, 12-24 Tokina, 10-24 Nikon

I shoot nothing but landscapes and personally have the 12-24 Tokina for my DX rig.

You will want a lens that takes filters, all the above do.

If you consider any of the above, make sure they are the model that has an internal motor in the lens as the D5000 does not have a drive motor built in.

A few examples from the Tokina:













Roman



Nov 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Landscapes and waterfalls


Another vote for the Tokina 11-16mm. It now comes with AFS too.


Kent in SD



Nov 13, 2012 at 01:40 PM
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tmpollard wrote:
@vchowdhary, filters or no filters i'm ok with either one. I'll look up the lenses you mentioned and price them.

@ Krickett, I currently have a DX D5000, awaiting a D7000 replacement, I like the body size on that camera.

@Dustin, your photos are absolutely amazing. If I could ever just take one photo that looks like yours I would be on cloud 9. Will the lens you mentioned work on a DX body?



Thats too nice

It should work on a DX. The lens is from the 1980s. I saw several on the B&S forum like a month ago that were cheap ($200 or so). Oh and I dont use filters - but in case you wanted to, the thread is 67mm



Nov 13, 2012 at 02:19 PM
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Dustin Gent wrote:
It should work on a DX. The lens is from the 1980s. I saw several on the B&S forum like a month ago that were cheap ($200 or so). Oh and I dont use filters - but in case you wanted to, the thread is 67mm


A 17mm is no UWA on a DX-camera, it's equal to or 1mm less than the standard on DX. I loved, on DX, my Sigma 10-20 3.5 5.6 and now my Sigma 15-30 on FX.



Nov 13, 2012 at 03:08 PM
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If you are going to do waterfalls, filters are almost a necessity. As you have a DX camera, my suggestion is to go with the Tokina 11-16/2.8 or the Nikon 12-24/4. There is a Tamron in between that range also. I stay away from Sigma due to my previous bad experience and hence can't recommend it.

Good luck.



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@roman, where in the world did you take your waterfall photo? It is beautiful


Nov 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM
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@roman, what type of filters did you use on these waterfall photos. If none used on these what type filters do you normally us. Also, what type DX camera are you using?


Nov 13, 2012 at 11:06 PM
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Both are in Oregon...top one near Bend, and 2nd one at the beach. I used a circular polariser on both.

I only own two filters... a CP and a 2 stop soft grad ND.

Shooting with a D300 currently....

Roman



Nov 14, 2012 at 12:23 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Landscapes and waterfalls


Another vote for the Tokina 11-16...


Nov 14, 2012 at 04:22 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Landscapes and waterfalls


Another perspective to consider...

The 11-16 is a favorite here for very good reason, but I decided to go with the Tokina 12-24. Funds were limited, and I wanted a lens that could serve double duty. The 24mm end of the lens makes it more "usable" in a wider variety of situations for me. It can function as a landscape, and a walkaround for me. This lens practically lives on my D7000... Except when my son "borrows" it to use on his D5000. :-)

I have the version without the focus motor... Works great on the D7000, and it doesn't stop my teenager from stealing it for his D5000 to use with manual focus. I bought mine used from B&H.



Nov 14, 2012 at 06:10 AM
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AMaji wrote:
If you are going to do waterfalls, filters are almost a necessity. As you have a DX camera, my suggestion is to go with the Tokina 11-16/2.8 or the Nikon 12-24/4. There is a Tamron in between that range also. I stay away from Sigma due to my previous bad experience and hence can't recommend it.

Good luck.


I have not had a filter in years and years, and all the photos on my website were taken with no filters. Time of day is the single most important aspect of waterfall shooting..



Nov 14, 2012 at 07:02 AM
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Hehehehe...funny, I'm looking at your shots and am like HEY that guy is in oregon!!! lol.

I dunno,your pics are great too, but I feel filters are important, or can be important, for waterfall shooting. Granted I feel I'm in a minority and don't use a polarizer hardly at all, but meh. ND filters are useful imho. Could you do without them, sure, but they are handy. Maybe less needed with clever use of your camera's features (you figure it out =p).

One of the shots is this place, right:







That one was with an ND filter...couldn't have gotten that look without it. Then again, sometimes I like to get that look but it does away with too much detail in medium sized falls and some people don't like that (I generally do), so to each their own...your shots are GREAT though, better than mine for sure, so ;-)

For lens choices, for UW on crop:

1. Sigma 8-16mm. You can use big big filters if clever, by the way. I did. ;-) It's going to be the widest, and the sharpest in the corners. If you get a decentered copy, send it back.

2. Tokina 11-16mm 2.8. Mine was nice, sharp, but had extreme flare problems. Has extreme CA, but that can be corrected. It's a very nice lens, but the corners aren't as sharp as the Siggy (don't pay too much attention to tests of the Sigma without using it yourself, it has field curvature). Takes filters (YAY). I used one of these for a long time, too.

3. Sigma 10-20mm (the slower version). I've never used one , but others swear by it.



Nov 14, 2012 at 06:30 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Landscapes and waterfalls


@woos, that is a stunning shot, i love the rainbow effect. Sounds like Oregon is the place to go for water falls.



Nov 14, 2012 at 06:54 PM
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@Dustin, I saw your comments about shooting at a certain time of day. What time do you think is best? Where should the sun be located behind, beside, or in front of you? Thanks


Nov 14, 2012 at 07:01 PM
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tmpollard wrote:
@Dustin, I saw your comments about shooting at a certain time of day. What time do you think is best? Where should the sun be located behind, beside, or in front of you? Thanks


I never am out when it is sunny, if I am shooting waterfalls - unless I am wanting a sunstar or what some dramatic light - usually in the morning. Rainy, foggy days work the best for waterfalls. I am lucky in that I live close by to the Columbia River Gorge, which receives 85+ inches of rain a year and conveniently has the highest concentrate of waterfalls on this continent.

Only filters I would ever spend money on are a grad and a polarizer - but that is just me. The next image was shot with film, no filters.








Nov 14, 2012 at 07:34 PM
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