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DavidCH
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p.1 #1 · The diving board


Had a buddy pose on the local diving board in the early morning. Too cold to go for a swim, but perfect for some pictures before the crowds!

I'm an amateur trying to improve, so C&C is most welcome

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8183/8080195383_e7c573e5d0_b.jpg

Lighting: Softbox with speedlight camera left, naked speedlight on the ground camera right for a little fill. Both gelled with 1/4 CTO to cool the ambient.



Nov 12, 2012 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #2 · The diving board


Howdy,

I think I have posted comments on something you posted before, long ago, but I do think it helps to state the following just in case...

My comments or suggestions below are not a criticism of you, your model, your talent or skill. I offer them in a friendly tone of voice and with the sole intent to help you with a second POV and set of eyes. If you read sincere questions and simple suggestions as "criticism" of you, then you will miss how I am trying to help you.

Of course this may be your own "style" or your own "vision" and I suppose we can assume that the images look just like they do because that is exactly how you like them. That is OK too. It just shows that there are differences of "opinion" on what looks good. IF these are exactly what you want and like, then by all means continue making your images look like that and have fun doing it. I can only speak for myself and what I do or do not find appealing in the posted photos. As I always say: "Follow your own muse."
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First....a question for YOU.

What is your concept for this photo? Please describe what you want people to think when they see this photo.

I am interested in reading or knowing what YOU think this photo shows and why you chose to pose your friend on the diving board.





Nov 12, 2012 at 05:06 PM
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p.1 #3 · The diving board


Would love to see it reversed with him staring off into the other direction!


Nov 12, 2012 at 05:46 PM
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p.1 #4 · The diving board


Hi Steady, yes you have indeed commented before.

So, for your question: My friend got some portraits for his facebook, I got his time to play with some ideas. My idea for this particular photo was to combine the light and landscape around Lake Geneva with his portrait, while practicing off-camera lighting.

Loving minimalism and surrealism/abstract art, I was hoping to try and convey the dull flat light of the morning clouds in a way that would make him appear to float above the lake. I purposedly tried to make for an exposure where the lake and skies merged somewhat, but while retaining enough details to recognize it as a body of water. Also, I tried to use the strong contrast of the diving board surface to make for a leading line "anchoring" the subject to the frame. What I personally like about this photo is that while it is clearly his portrait, it is also somewhat abstract/minimalistic, with a view over a lake that is quite different from the usual postcard type shots of this location. My hope for the lighting would be that it should perceived as non-obtrusive, but still help him stand out from the flat light surrounding him.

As for the portrait, I was hoping to showcase a young, confident man taking on the world in a (for him) foreign country and environment. A confident alien, in an alien landscape, as it were...

Did it work?



Nov 12, 2012 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #5 · The diving board


coresare wrote:
Would love to see it reversed with him staring off into the other direction!


That is an interesting idea. I am always hesitant about reversing portraits because of the possible changes in the symmetry of the face. I will definitely have a go at it, though. Thanks for the suggestion!



Nov 12, 2012 at 05:52 PM
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p.1 #6 · The diving board


I like this!

Some (possible) improvements:

The light looks a bit "fake" (I.e. lit), I'm not a master at lighting (not even close) but the shadow from his cap is a bit harsher than natural light would provide, and the fact that his feet aren't lit kind of gives it away. I'm not against artificial light, but I want it to look as good as possible

Maybe moving in a bit with a wider lens would emphasize the line of the board while also bringing out the clouds etc...

And I feel that a bowtie would look awesome here



Nov 12, 2012 at 06:01 PM
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I kinda like it, David. I'd straighten the horizon...take a bit off the left, and crop it just above the roller/bumper
under the board. It doesn't add anything to the shot and takes something away from your "clean" look.



Nov 12, 2012 at 06:05 PM
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p.1 #8 · The diving board


Thanks a lot, Zalmy, for your valuable critique! Still struggling a bit (who am I kidding; a lot) with mixing artificial with ambient, so your comments and observations are very welcome! Did not notice the feet until now...

Agreed about the bowtie



Nov 12, 2012 at 06:08 PM
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p.1 #9 · The diving board


trenchmonkey wrote:
I kinda like it, David. I'd straighten the horizon...take a bit off the left, and crop it just above the roller/bumper
under the board. It doesn't add anything to the shot and takes something away from your "clean" look.


So much for being sure that the horizon was level -- but you're right about it beeing a little bit off

Thanks a lot for the cropping suggestion, I'll give it a try!



Nov 12, 2012 at 06:11 PM
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p.1 #10 · The diving board


Who cares what it is about, who cares about a little bit of light here or there being out of place. Bottom line, freaking fantastic shot. Well done my friend.


Nov 12, 2012 at 08:00 PM
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p.1 #11 · The diving board


Haha, thanks a lot, Michael

However, detailed critique can be very helpful when trying to improve, so I appreciate it all



Nov 13, 2012 at 03:24 PM
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p.1 #12 · The diving board


trenchmonkey wrote:
I kinda like it, David. I'd straighten the horizon...take a bit off the left, and crop it just above the roller/bumper
under the board. It doesn't add anything to the shot and takes something away from your "clean" look.

Agree.



Nov 13, 2012 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #13 · The diving board


Alternative crop, as suggested by Jim R. and Trenchmonkey:

http://i.imgur.com/4LFfQ.jpg



Nov 13, 2012 at 03:36 PM
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Nov 13, 2012 at 04:38 PM
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p.1 #15 · The diving board


I do like it after the crop.


Nov 13, 2012 at 05:03 PM
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p.1 #16 · The diving board


pedpole wrote:
I do like it after the crop.


I was actually surprised myself of how big of an improvement it made. Lesson learned...

Thanks for the feedback, everybody



Nov 13, 2012 at 05:09 PM
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p.1 #17 · The diving board


Hi

I appreciate that this is a real location shot but the image looks like a composite.. I wonder if the nasty sharpening halo is contributing to this effect


(I think it would have been fun to have him in the water fully dressed)

Jane



Nov 13, 2012 at 07:54 PM
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p.1 #18 · The diving board


Love the cropped shot, very cool portrait.


Nov 13, 2012 at 07:56 PM
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p.1 #19 · The diving board


I must defer to the pros, but I liked the original un-cropped photo. The expanse of sky and water led up to the subject, and they are pretty besides.


Nov 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM
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p.1 #20 · The diving board


I really like the shot, but I don't love the processing. It looks like you set up some nice lighting and then went ahead and filled the shadows that it created, making it a bit too artificial for my taste. I also prefer the first crop--it adds an element of context that I like. I'd love to see it straight out of the camera!


Nov 14, 2012 at 01:17 AM
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