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p.1 #1 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

...But...I do seem to be enjoying 35 f/1.4g's rendering. This is the first time I've actually started working on photos taken with it. It's got a different look from the 35L for sure, but appealing in its own way. It's very smooth, extremely smooth, and I somehow like it anyway.

Still don't like the 85 f/1.8g's rendering...may have to invest in 85 f/1.4g.

Nov 07, 2012 at 07:50 PM

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p.1 #2 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

I do not like the rendering on any of the 1.8g lenses.

Incredible, near flawless lenses, but they do not grab me.

Nov 07, 2012 at 07:57 PM

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p.1 #3 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

I'd be interested to know, if you could try to put your finger on it, what specifically bothers you about the 1.8, form. And, later, to know how you think the 1.4 compares.

Nov 07, 2012 at 09:38 PM

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p.1 #4 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

There is something about the bokeh of the 85 1.8 that I don't like. I can't put my finger on it - it's very smooth, somehow subtle...maybe something to do with the focus rolloff from the transition zone. I also don't like how it seems to lack that trait of "cat's eye" effect of smushing bokeh towards the edges/corners, so it doesn't have that look - it just looks uniformly OOF in the background. Good examples of lenses that do have that obvious cat's eye effect towards the outside are 85L and 135L (and 70-200 f/2.8L IS on the long end).

As described before, the 85L has that effect. I don't really know how the Nikon 85 1.4 performs yet...haven't tried one.

Nov 07, 2012 at 11:47 PM

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p.1 #5 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

Form, you're entitled to your opinions and preferences but technically speaking 'cats eye bokeh' is not desirable. Ideally you want nice uniform round bokeh.

Nov 08, 2012 at 04:49 PM

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p.1 #6 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

TTLKurtis wrote:
Form, you're entitled to your opinions and preferences but technically speaking 'cats eye bokeh' is not desirable. Ideally you want nice uniform round bokeh.

This. To each their own, but what you're praising is technically inferior performance.

Nov 08, 2012 at 07:38 PM

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p.1 #7 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

Maybe form is a cat, in which case his preference would be only natural. His avatar is a cat, after all.

Nov 08, 2012 at 08:03 PM

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p.1 #8 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

I love me some cats eye bokeh! Uniform is boring.

Saying that, I'll probably pick up the 28 1.8 and the 50 1.8 one of these days, just for the autofocusness. I don't really shoot much longer than a 50 so the 85 doesn't really appeal to me. (and when I do shoot long, I want some ridiculously awesome bokeh. Not some neutral garbage

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Nov 08, 2012 at 08:28 PM

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p.1 #9 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

If you want cat's eye bokeh or pentagon-bokeh get the cheapest crappiest lenses you can find and you'll more than likely be very pleased lol

Nov 08, 2012 at 11:22 PM

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p.1 #10 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

woah, who mentioned pentagon bokeh. Just because they are both theoretically "flaws" doesn't make them equal.

Here's some yummy cat's eye bokeh:

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I find this much more interesting and pleasing than "uniform round bokeh" (and it helps draw the eye towards the subject)

Nov 09, 2012 at 01:55 AM

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p.1 #11 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

how can you not like the 85 1.8g? its freaking amazing!!!! I got the trifecta and its the best 3 lenses I had shot together since i was on canon. 28 1.8g, 50 1.8g, 85 1.8g.

Nov 09, 2012 at 02:12 AM

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p.1 #12 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

Yesterday, the 35 1.4g let me down totally. Not in good light...but in low light. It can't focus worth a darn in low light. Didn't matter how much contrast the subject had. My 35L focuses MUCH better in low light...on 5d2s.

Nikon has presented me with a big issue here: Bad low light focus on 35, good on 85...great dynamic range and shadow recovery with no banding...bad 85 bokeh, good 35 bokeh...and by bad bokeh I mean something I don't like the look of...

Low light AF is very important. This is a big problem.

Further, I read reviews about the 35g being great in low light AF accuracy...definitely not my experience...WTF is up with this lens?

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Nov 09, 2012 at 10:45 AM

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p.1 #13 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

form wrote:
Yesterday, the 35 1.4g let me down totally. Not in good light...but in low light. It can't focus worth a darn in low light. Didn't matter how much contrast the subject had. My 35L focuses MUCH better in low light...on 5d2s.

Nikon has presented me with a big issue here: Bad low light focus on 35, good on 85...great dynamic range and shadow recovery with no banding...bad 85 bokeh, good 35 bokeh...and by bad bokeh I mean something I don't like the look of...

Low light AF is very important. This is a big problem.

Further, I read reviews about the 35g being great in low light AF accuracy...definitely not my experience...WTF is up with this lens?

What body are you using? I use the 35/1.4 to shoot receptions. Pretty dark and I'd say over 95% are in focus. I am using a D4.

Nov 09, 2012 at 03:00 PM

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p.1 #14 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

D800, I can't cross check because it's my only body.

Nov 09, 2012 at 03:36 PM

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p.1 #15 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

form wrote:
D800, I can't cross check because it's my only body.

I use it on a D800 as well and haven't had an issue in low light on continual AF.

Nov 09, 2012 at 03:38 PM

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p.1 #16 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

I think the lens is defective, I'm sending it in. 85 doesn't have this issue. When I first bought this 35, it didn't need more than +1 af adjustment to be in focus, and it was doing equally well in light and dark. Now it needs +7 or 8 for good light, and it massively Backfocuses in situations where the light is just a little low, like iso400 f1.4 1/125 shutter speed.

Nov 09, 2012 at 04:00 PM

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p.1 #17 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

BriMcD wrote:
form wrote:
D800, I can't cross check because it's my only body.

I use it on a D800 as well and haven't had an issue in low light on continual AF.

Continuous fails me for still subjects with this lens. How does af-s work for you on the 35?

Nov 09, 2012 at 04:01 PM

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p.1 #18 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

It will. Shooting ports AF-S. moving subjects. AF-C

Nov 09, 2012 at 04:33 PM

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p.1 #19 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

But I am having big misfocus problems with afs for still subjects with this lens.

Nov 09, 2012 at 04:38 PM

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p.1 #20 · Don't care for 85 f/1.8 g's rendering, but...

Body set to shutter priority or focus priority.

Nov 09, 2012 at 04:42 PM

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