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| p.3 #7 · Wedding photographer near Pittsburgh |
Inku Yo wrote:
wow really? I really hope someone is not going to consider this for $700. Even if pushed to $1500, I wouldn't do it. I would rather sit at home and not work than be a slave for little pay.
I understand where you are coming from, but you have to consider other perspectives. I am new to the business, but I feel like I have a good amount of talent for my experience level. But as a newbie, it's not the easiest thing in the world to book a bunch of weddings your first year out on your own. I have a few, more than I expected actually, but still... it's not hard to decide between shooting and getting paid $1,000+ or not shooting at all and making nothing. I am not at the point in my career when I can say 'My time is worth more than that.' I have a full time day job, so all of this is done on the side. Regardless, each and every wedding adds to my portfolio, experience level, and bank account. If I were to try and demand $2,000+ for weddings my first year, I would literally have 0 bookings instead of the 6 that I do have now.
My only hesitation with doing this particular wedding is that it pretty much has no chance of leading to future word-of-mouth referrals (since they are coming in from jolly old England). I still need to learn more about the whole situation first before I decide anything.
Ya feel me?
Common sense and perspective is starting to win over. Without giving details on a public forum, there's a reason why Brits are looking for photogs in Pittsburgh.
To those who wouldn't demean themselves to a lowly daily rate comparable to what some earn in a month, no worries. You won't be booked!
Man, your attitude about this whole thing makes me sad. That being said, I'd like to book someone for a speaking engagement on polar expeditions. My budget is $20. Know anyone?
That final sentence makes me sad. How is $20 comparable to $1500? If you stopped someone in the street and asked if they would work in their professional role for a daily rate of around $1000 for a few days, they'd say yes. Your concept of scale is totally out of perspective and if you can't maintain your way of life for less than $3k/day (even allowing for only three days paid work a month) then I'm afraid it's not the client at fault.....
What has happened here, and this is my last post, is that a clued up potential client has offered a significant wad of cash for a job which would require relatively little post-prod work. Some people (similar to those deluded about the changing stock photo industry) have decided it's beneath them to work for less than $3000 a day for a low-overhead job and some have been mature and begun a dialogue. One of those photographers will end up $xxxx better off.
The amount of money isn't relevant. It's the perceived value of your services. What's your normal speaking engagement rate? $500? $1000? Whatever it is, I'll offer you half. Bill Clinton gets something like $500-$750K per engagement. I'm sure there is someone in your field that is better than you, more experienced than you, speaks better than you, and is in higher demand. And I be they make more money per speaking engagement than you. Why is that? Are you telling that person that they are overcharging and should be able to live on less per gig?
I'm not mad that I'm not going to get this job (not that I'm even interested). I'm too busy shooting $5K weddings to even think about yours. I was just really surprised that a fellow photographer would put so little value on his own wedding photography. Then I took a closer look at your site. You're not a photographer at all. You're an polar explorer that occasionally takes snap shots on your expeditions and a public speaker.
So, I'm not really surprised anymore. Best of luck to you.