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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


Guys,

It would really help if you could tell us what it is we seem to be missing when it comes to the D7000 autofocus system.

I just returned one last week after coming up from a D3100 but i'm no beginner and have spend a fair bit of time getting the most out of my camera and it's different AF modes.

For static subjects I use AF-S, single point focus and navigate the focus point around until I place one right in the subjects eye socket. Camera confirms AF I release the shutter, images are soft time after time.

The D3100 only has 11 AF-points and you generally have to recompose to a point because you can guarantee the point you want to focus on sits between two AF points.

I was out with a friend this weekend who said that he can't shoot below f8 on his D7000 or his images are soft, this sounds very fishy to me and pretty sure the 2 extra megapixels aren't making a whole world of difference.

I'm not trying to be confrontational here i'd just love to where it's all going wrong.



Nov 09, 2012 at 11:19 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


theater_dad wrote:
I was hoping that TM would show up lauding the multi-cam4800. I'm considering a pretty expensive tradeup to a D600 (well, pretty expensive to me...) in order to shoot the kids' theater shows/concerts...not a forgiving environment especially when you consider the photographic skills of the author.

But all of that full frame, high ISO IQ goodness won't be real helpful if the AF can't lock on. I think the stage lighting will be enough to let the camera acquire/track focus, but I don't know. So I went looking around Riversbend Photograph hoping to find some rodeo shots under the
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Dad - if you can wait a week or two, I can give you this proof on the D600. I think it is the perfect hand-held music theater/concert camera. D800 or D4 is too much in my opinion. D600 hits the sweet spot especially if you have good quality glass. Frankly, if you have really good glass, the D7000 would work well too.

B



Nov 09, 2012 at 02:28 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


blutch wrote:
...what exactly do you have to "tweak" with these sensors to get good #'s? I'm just now starting to photograph moving objects with the D600 and D7000. I could really use some advice on how to improve my focus....


b (and doug),

there are some "recipes" for better AF performance described on a several threads. these were the two that i could find/remember. (of course, buying beer for will may be your most expedient avenue.)

they may be d7k specific....but i'm guessing d600 will behave pretty well with these settings also....but maybe the fx version of the autofocus will require it's own new recipe for our event shooting conditions.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1146942/0?keyword=d7k#10944365

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1083208/0?keyword=d7k#10314494

there were some others, but these get to the gist of it.

am looking forward to your posts/pics and particularly thoughts on the shutter noise. if this AF doesn't hack it, i'm basically down a used d700....and i guess i'll just have to get used to the condescending looks from those seated nearby when the gunfire commences.

(although i'm beginning to think that a 7100 isn't too far off....very interested to see the IQ in the new 5200 sensor)

i guess we've officially hijacked the thread now. apologies to the original poster.



Nov 09, 2012 at 04:19 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


I'm still a little confused about the AF modes and what to use when.... I was using AF-C 39 pts this last weekend trying to shoot some hawks and there was only one focus point in the viewfinder. Shouldn't they all be active with that setting? This was both on the D7000 and D600. This didn't work well on the D700 with an older 300/f4.

Dad - I think you will be shocked by the shutter sound of the D600. I think it is even a little softer than the D7000. It seems to be about half the sound of the D700.

B



Nov 09, 2012 at 04:52 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


The sample images are soft and blurry.

I've seen better pix from old trenchbeard.

Those images would've been culled out. I don't get it?



Nov 09, 2012 at 06:15 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


To which images are you referring? B


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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


more focus "recipe" resources.....

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3110833#forum-post-40054546

http://www.nikoncafe.com/vforums/showthread.php?t=345262

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2980564

warning...the next three are long (and somewhat overlapping). started by the same guy. they are posted in order of writing (i think). i couldn't finish 'em.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/37102553

(this is an update to his previous post)
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/37491958

(another update....same poster)
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2961628

the one thread i wanted to relocate still escapes me. i think it was here on the FM nikon board....but i can't be sure. it had a very good discussion on autofocus and someone posted a link to an autofocus pdf file that looked very much like a nikon manual. but no luck.

on another note, i see doug lives in cornwall. my wife would be jealous. she keeps swooning every time doc martin comes on tv. we haven't made it to that part of england (yet).



Nov 09, 2012 at 07:04 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


Oddly enough, Kerry, your experience mirrors mine exactly! I would recommend the D300s for a less experienced photographer who needs to get sharp shots with good colour in a semi auto configuration. But the D7000 gets amazing colour, texture, lighting and sharpness once it has been mastered and matched with good lenses. Both are video capable, of course.


Dec 08, 2012 at 06:50 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


> a link to an autofocus pdf file

I think you may be referring to this

http://www.pixelfinesse.com/_docs/D7000_AF_Explained.pdf

Contains a rather thorough description of what each mode is supposed to do.

Not mine; all credit to the original author, whoever he is.



Dec 09, 2012 at 03:47 PM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


theater_dad,

i shoot high school musicals with a D700 and it works great.

pair it with a 200 f/2.0 VR and you will be laughing. the 70-200 f/2.8 VR works great also.

grant




  NIKON D700    70.0-200.0 mm f/2.8 lens    145mm    f/2.8    1/320s    3200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D700    200.0 mm f/2.0 lens    200mm    f/2.0    1/320s    2500 ISO    0.0 EV  




Dec 09, 2012 at 05:22 PM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Silly question. D300s or D7000


Going back to your original post, if you don't plan on going above 1600 ISO, then really, it's a no brainer. D300 and you're good to go. Great, solid camera.
Kim
western burbs of Chicago



Dec 11, 2012 at 03:05 AM
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