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p.2 #1 · Help me choose new lens!

it is really not the same, because you cannot maintain eye contact and you look funny for them.
it is of course not meaning that falling on floor to get a shot is a bad thing (i do it all the time), you just get another type of photos, more detached, real, sometimes easier in tight situations. i often dance with the people and shooting waist level with OCF. they dont even know i am shooting

AgentM wrote:
Interesting points you make....shooting waist up. If I want to get a lower angle I usually
simply bend my knees? Isnt that the same?

Kittyk wrote:
i think you just lust after more gear, nothing is here which can stop you

if you want new look or are bored, just try some innovative approach instead using new gear.
what i do (even many of them through the day)

-fish eye or 14-24. This is fun if you can pull it
-i am sexy and i f8 it (f8 and be there)
-i did one wedding with 135 only
-i did one wedding with 35 only
-do you know how cool it is to be experienced waist shooter? this virtually resolves all "look into camera" documentary issues. look your subjects to the eyes, shoot from chest / waist level (practice well before first using it on something critical)

Nov 05, 2012 at 04:48 PM

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p.2 #2 · Help me choose new lens!

I think the canon 24-70MKI is horrible, I'd probably shoot with a 50mm 1.8 before even contemplating using it for a paid assignment. I wonder if the new one is any better.

Nov 05, 2012 at 06:08 PM

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35L
sell the 24-70 youll thank me

This- if you're shooting 2 bodies the 35L will give your work a new look- a look that you'll love. Or if you can afford- just buy 35L and give it a try.

Nov 05, 2012 at 06:54 PM

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AgentM wrote:

Interesting that folks are more for the 35L versus 50L. Probably because its wider.
But the DOP on the 50L !

There's something magical about the 35L on a full-frame that you won't understand until you try one out. Maybe try renting one just to give it a spin?

Nov 05, 2012 at 08:14 PM

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p.2 #5 · Help me choose new lens!

Quick, everyone post awesome sample shots taken with their 35L for him to oogle over.

Nov 05, 2012 at 11:10 PM

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p.2 #6 · Help me choose new lens!

i would get a 35L or some siggy 50 ,

Nov 05, 2012 at 11:42 PM

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p.2 #7 · Help me choose new lens!

Pentax 67 with the 105mm lens (should run you around $500).

Seriously though, you got to have a "look" in mind that you're going for and then buy a lens that does that. To just get a lens that will do something "different" without really knowing what you're going for seems kind of silly.

Of you want to do something that will up your ante do what ms. Kitty said. Shoot an entire wedding at one focal length at f/8 (or some other arbitrary limitation).

Nov 06, 2012 at 01:08 AM

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p.2 #8 · Help me choose new lens!

Tony Hoffer wrote:
Kittyk wrote:
no, nobody should ever sell 24-70 once he/she have it. It is one lens army practical for most single camera situations or when you just have to get the shot regardless of anything. It doubles as awesome 35-105 on DX crop and is usually one of the sharper lenses in everybody's bag.

You obviously haven't used the crappy Canon version

<- + 50

Nov 06, 2012 at 01:31 AM

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p.2 #9 · Help me choose new lens!

Trade the zoom for the 35l. That will give you a new and improved look

Nov 06, 2012 at 04:23 PM

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ditch all your zooms and go all prime. It will definitely get you a different look. We used all zooms years ago. Then in 2009 we found ourselves using our 2 primes more. So then we ditched all of our zooms and went all primes. With the exception of the 70-200 and 12-24. But all primes now. 28, 35, 50, 85, 135

It makes you think more and in the end gives you a look and style you dont always get with a zoom because they make you lazy

What others have said, 35 and 50 are primo lenses to have. I shot a whole wedding with my 35 before and I have used my 50 once for a whole wedding. I just shot a senior session with only my 85 too.

Nov 06, 2012 at 04:44 PM

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p.2 #11 · Help me choose new lens!

What everyone is saying regarding zooms versus primes has me thinking.
I am seriously considering selling the 24-70 and then fill the gap with a prime.
What I will do is keep my 16-35mm for now. But what should my step in lens be?
I can ONLY afford one lens at this time.

If I keep the 16-35 zoom - should I get the 35 first or the 50

I will then later buy the 135L.

The look I want is simply better image quality on my 5d's and much more DOP.

My ideal would then be the following list:

16-35 L
35 L OR 50 L (WHICH ONE?)
85mm 1.8
135 L
70-200 F4 (I had the 2.8 and didnt like it)

Thanks for all the wise input.

paparazzinick wrote:
ditch all your zooms and go all prime. It will definitely get you a different look. We used all zooms years ago. Then in 2009 we found ourselves using our 2 primes more. So then we ditched all of our zooms and went all primes. With the exception of the 70-200 and 12-24. But all primes now. 28, 35, 50, 85, 135

It makes you think more and in the end gives you a look and style you dont always get with a zoom because they make you lazy

What others have said, 35 and 50 are primo lenses to have. I shot a whole wedding with my 35 before and I have used my 50 once for a whole wedding. I just shot a senior session with only my 85 too.

Nov 06, 2012 at 06:17 PM

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p.2 #12 · Help me choose new lens!

What 70-200 do you have?

Nov 06, 2012 at 07:23 PM

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p.2 #13 · Help me choose new lens!

If you're going to keep your 16-35, I wouldn't bother with a 35L - I'd go with the 50L

Nov 06, 2012 at 07:28 PM

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p.2 #14 · Help me choose new lens!

I'd say to pick up the 35L and a 50mm 1.4 if you can wing it.

Nov 06, 2012 at 08:08 PM

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p.2 #15 · Help me choose new lens!

If you keep the 16-35 then get the 50.

AgentM wrote:
What everyone is saying regarding zooms versus primes has me thinking.
I am seriously considering selling the 24-70 and then fill the gap with a prime.
What I will do is keep my 16-35mm for now. But what should my step in lens be?
I can ONLY afford one lens at this time.

If I keep the 16-35 zoom - should I get the 35 first or the 50

What others have said, 35 and 50 are primo lenses to have. I shot a whole wedding with my 35 before and I have used my 50 once for a whole wedding. I just shot a senior session with only my 85 too.

Nov 08, 2012 at 02:50 PM

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Hi, just wanted to share my experience. I had similar lens collection as yours. I sold my 24-70 this summer and bought a 35 L. 24-70 is very versertile for sure but the images produced by it are a bit boring. Also, it is too big and heavy for me. I used 35 L along with 50 1.4 for the weddings I took this summer. I love the images from 35 L very much. But sometimes I do miss the flexibility of the zoom and I hate to change lens constantly. I am not a prime lens guy, I love zoom, especially my 70-200 2.8 IS II. I sold my 85 1.8 and 135 2 after I got 70-200. For you, you may consider to add a 50 L since you already have a 16-35 (I had 17-40, but I rarely use it) as other people suggested. But I think the images from 16-35 and 35 L will be different, IMO.

AgentM wrote:

If I keep the 16-35 zoom - should I get the 35 first or the 50

Nov 08, 2012 at 09:16 PM

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ZachOly wrote:
If you're going to keep your 16-35, I wouldn't bother with a 35L - I'd go with the 50L

Eh? These lenses render completely differently, it's not just about fl. I I own 16-35, 35l and 24l. They all get used.

Nov 09, 2012 at 01:03 AM

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p.2 #18 · Help me choose new lens!

You want a "new look" to your photos?
Your sig says you shoot a 10D and a 20D. Is this accurate?
I know not everyone updates their sig.
If so, go full frame, it will give the lenses you have a "new look"

Nov 09, 2012 at 01:10 AM

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p.2 #19 · Help me choose new lens!

I just got a 35L (first L lens!) and I love it. I always used a 50 1.4 prior to that. I love my 35L, sharp and has that pop. I've used my friend's 24-70 a few times, its a great lens but I'm a prime kind of guy.

Nov 09, 2012 at 11:55 AM

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p.2 #20 · Help me choose new lens!

You obviously haven't used the crappy Canon version

I've heard Canon peeps say that all the time, even while I shot Canon. I never had an issue with that lens. I did have an issue with the 50/1.2. It was never sharp and I tried 3 different copies. If you want to get different looks try adding light to your images ( I haven't seen your work so you may already be doing this). Speed light on a stick, California sunbounce held by an assistant.

If you're lusting for a lens I'd go for the 35. Tilt shifts are cool to. If you like the look of the selective DOF you can achieve this in PS. It's not as good as a TS but I really don't think a client would be able to tell.

Nov 09, 2012 at 02:30 PM

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