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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?



Okay guys...

I am about to make a decision buying Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar, based on several reviews, forums and blogs I found out they're all consistent on claiming this lens is soft below f/2.8. DXO labs even rate this lens lower than the Cheapo Canon 50mm f/1.8

If this is the case how sharp is Zeiss 50mm 1.4 at f/2.8? Can someone please post a 100% crop shot f2.8.



Nov 04, 2012 at 12:06 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


Bad? It's an amazing lens and only soft at short distances, wide open.

Edit: These are shot at f/1.4...

http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/674/U674I1288468979.SEQ.0.jpg


http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/674/U674I1288468684.SEQ.0.jpg





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Nov 04, 2012 at 12:17 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


The Planar is not soft below 2.8, the resolving power is there. It has veiling haze wide open that lowers the contrast, which can be very useful for portraits and night shots. From 2.8 upwards, it is very sharp and clear.


Nov 04, 2012 at 12:17 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


There is nothing bad about the Planar.It takes a little time to get used to, not recommended as a first lens.IMO a lot of the complaints with this lens were user error.

Here are a few that i took when i had it in NYC taken with 1DsII

-Jim

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7140/6942621658_d3692ab302_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6942644236_3f6346c931_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7078/6942611732_42aa2025ec_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7115/7066100971_2df99863d0_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7247/6899933696_bcf17ed64f_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7046024931_7b11749478_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7252/6881618660_cb0e1a0c76_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7133/7021727993_f5c222e2bc_b.jpg





Nov 04, 2012 at 12:38 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


wow jim, great shots! how did you mf-ing the lens? using precision screen?


Nov 04, 2012 at 02:02 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


Jim Schemel wrote:
There is nothing bad about the Planar.It takes a little time to get used to, not recommended as a first lens.IMO a lot of the complaints with this lens were user error.

Here are a few that i took when i had it in NYC taken with 1DsII

-Jim



These are all f/2.8?



Nov 04, 2012 at 02:20 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


Makten wrote:
Bad? It's an amazing lens and only soft at short distances, wide open.

Edit: These are shot at f/1.4...



The pictures you posted are converted straight from camera with no adjustments? I can see that the RED are really red...saturation and contrast are up there.



Nov 04, 2012 at 02:24 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


It's not as easy as my 35/2 to produce stellar results but it is sharp -even wide open. Here's some I recently posted in the zeiss ZE/ZF/ZM thread

wide open

IMG_6737 by Pete the Irish Guy, on Flickr


stopped down

IMG_6534 by Pete the Irish Guy, on Flickr




Nov 04, 2012 at 02:39 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


I share edwardkaraa's and makten's opinion.

It is an excellent,sharp and contrasty lens overall.At f1.4 and f2 it shows some veiling and fringing but all those are gone from f2.8 on.




Nov 04, 2012 at 02:45 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


bushwacker wrote:
These are all f/2.8?


what?

they are all obviously wide open.

OP the 50/1.4 planar is a really good lens but like all lenses has some compromises. Like was recommended, if you want something a bit easier to shoot the 50/2.0 Makro Planar is probably a better choice.

I'll say this about my preference: if you gave me a 50/1.4 Canon I wouldn't use it. If you gave me a ZE Planar I would, when I was using my dSLR. FWIW I own, use and love the ZM planar.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


I like this lens... it's not bad at all...it just has some kind of rendering you'll like or hate.








Nov 04, 2012 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


If you gonna measure lens just by MTF..

..you gonna have bad time.



Nov 04, 2012 at 03:43 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


bushwacker wrote:
The pictures you posted are converted straight from camera with no adjustments?


Of course not. Why would you want to do that and get flat, boring images no matter what lens you use? You can see the character of the lens, which was the meaning with posting them.

The Planar is a "bad" lens if you are gonna shoot test charts. But it's great for real images.



Nov 04, 2012 at 04:42 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


I think it's great. It has a certain look. It's only soft when shooting closeups wide open. I never care for test charts, I prefer real world results.


Nov 04, 2012 at 04:55 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


I love this lens and I know people love this lens, but it is soft compare all other 1.4 lens I have. Since 50% of time I do portrait shooting, within 2M, the lens is worst in terms of snap. (Nikon/Zeiss 85mm 1.4, Nikkor 1.2, Zeiss 35mm 1.4, and 50lux 1.4 M ASPH/R E48, Zeiss sonnar 1.5)

Even nikkor 1.8G is sharper than it within 2M. Infinity is fine compare others.

Love of hate depend your value priority regarding what is good or what is not.



Nov 04, 2012 at 05:02 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


It took me a couple of tries to understand this lens. The first time I used it, I was shooting relatively close up, wide open, in a high-contrast situation, and I hated the results, soft and fringy. Then with time I came to love the rendering, and now I accept its weaknesses and love its strengths. Look through the ZE/ZF/ZM and Zeiss threads, lots of examples.


Nov 04, 2012 at 05:25 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


Mine had terrible, unusable focus shift. (I'm in the minority here, and the lens may have been faulty.)

I have outstanding results with my Contax Zeiss 50/1.4 (plus several Canon EF), so not bothering to pursue the ZE 50/1.4 again.



Nov 04, 2012 at 06:23 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


Gunzorro wrote:
Mine had terrible, unusable focus shift. (I'm in the minority here, and the lens may have been faulty.)

I have outstanding results with my Contax Zeiss 50/1.4 (plus several Canon EF), so not bothering to pursue the ZE 50/1.4 again.


The focus shift is real.But i learned to use the stop down button on the canon cameras with great success.Of course if you are shooting wide open then focus shift is impossible.



Nov 04, 2012 at 08:53 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


I don't know if it's because of the contrast in the samples, but that bokeh makes me feel like I've had too much coffee. Unless of course, I actually did have too much coffee...


Nov 04, 2012 at 09:00 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · How bad is Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 ZE Planar?


corndog wrote:
I don't know if it's because of the contrast in the samples, but that bokeh makes me feel like I've had too much coffee. Unless of course, I actually did have too much coffee...


You're right; the bokeh is a bit nervous wide open and at close to medium distances. But I actually like it when considering it as a "dual temperament" lens. Stop it down and the bokeh is just sweeter than any other lens, combined with sharpness and color out of this world.

Sorry for using the same old example all the time, but I've taken most of my stuff down from the net...

http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/674/U674I1287947507.SEQ.0.jpg



Nov 04, 2012 at 09:48 PM
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