p.1 #1 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
still flirting with the idea of a switch. picked up the d600 with the kit lens, and the 70-300 VR lens. already have a the 14-24 2.8. am going to try to shoot some with the 14-24, primarily landscape and see how big of a difference there is in my practical shooting.
The camera sure has a lot of buttons and wheels. I guess its a matter of getting used to, but sure is confusing coming from canon. I had to actually read the manual to even be able to shoot in AV mode.
will post impressions with some images in the next couple of weeks.
p.1 #3 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
I think it's going to take me awhile to learn the Nikon way too. Looking forward to hearing your impressions, since it will be a couple more Weeks until I get mine.
Paul
p.1 #4 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
I just switched from Canon to Nikon. Shot with a 1Ds for years. Wish I would have switched long ago Seems the build quality of the Nikons are better than the Canons - minus the 1 series.
p.1 #5 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
So far, the customizability is amazing, and a little overwhelming. It is unfortunate that the video control is more limited than my canon (no aperture change? why?
autofocus is nice and responsive, and seems accurate. I dont have any primes to test it of course, beyond 2.8. my 5d3 seems to lock just a touch faster.
p.1 #6 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
kevindar wrote:
So far, the customizability is amazing, and a little overwhelming. It is unfortunate that the video control is more limited than my canon (no aperture change? why?
autofocus is nice and responsive, and seems accurate. I dont have any primes to test it of course, beyond 2.8. my 5d3 seems to lock just a touch faster.
No aperture change in video with G lenses (unless they're PC-Es) because Nikon loves the segmentation games as much as any other company. Lenses with aperture rings still have video mode aperture control, though.
Initial lock on with Nikons has always been a smidge slower AFAIK. Tracking should be similar.
p.1 #7 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
kevindar wrote:
my 5d3 seems to lock just a touch faster.
i'm very interested in your impression of the AF between the d600 and your 5d3. particularly for shooting events (not sure what you shoot). the fps, lowlight af, and quiet shutter of the 5d3 have me wondering if i should get one of those instead of a d600.
p.1 #8 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
theater_dad wrote:
i'm very interested in your impression of the AF between the d600 and your 5d3. particularly for shooting events (not sure what you shoot). the fps, lowlight af, and quiet shutter of the 5d3 have me wondering if i should get one of those instead of a d600.
I dont know if I would be qualified to answer that question completely. I own a set of L lenses, including fast primes for canon ( 35 1.4, 70-200 f2.8 and f4 IS, etc). I have 2 consumer lenses and the 14-24. so the lens would play a role.
The autofocus is fast. comparing the 14-24 with my 16-35 on 5d3, the 5d3 is slightly faster. its a bit quicker to lock. I think if ultimate speed of autofocus is your goal. the 5d3 is a better choice, but I dont think in majority of cases its of any consequence. I will try some low light autofocus with it.
p.1 #9 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
theater_dad wrote:
i'm very interested in your impression of the AF between the d600 and your 5d3. particularly for shooting events (not sure what you shoot). the fps, lowlight af, and quiet shutter of the 5d3 have me wondering if i should get one of those instead of a d600.
Have you heard the D600 shutter? VERY quiet. Even softer than the D7000. Much much quieter than any other full frame Nikon. I'm very excited about it.
p.1 #10 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
kevindar wrote:
I dont know if I would be qualified to answer that question completely. I own a set of L lenses, including fast primes for canon ( 35 1.4, 70-200 f2.8 and f4 IS, etc). I have 2 consumer lenses and the 14-24. so the lens would play a role.
The autofocus is fast. comparing the 14-24 with my 16-35 on 5d3, the 5d3 is slightly faster. its a bit quicker to lock. I think if ultimate speed of autofocus is your goal. the 5d3 is a better choice, but I dont think in majority of cases its of any consequence. I will try some low light autofocus with it....Show more →
You are correct that the lens will play a role in AF acquisition speed. I have several of Nikon's high performing prime lenses (35G and 85G) and they are nowhere fast as the 24-70 f/2.8 G and 70-200 f/2.8 VR II.
I had the chance to play with my friend's 5D MK III. Coming from the Canon 5D before making the switch to the D700 two years ago, I commented to him that had they implemented the same AF system in the 5D MK II, I probably would've stayed Canon a bit longer.
But being the sort of person who tries to know more about his gear, I've found that the Nikon lenses I own are significantly sharper than the Canon's.
It'll take time getting used to the new interface, but have fun shooting with it. Good luck on deciding the best camera for you.
p.1 #11 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
Thanks honorerdieu.
Blutch, I have not tried other Nikon bodies, but the silent mode on 5d3 is a fair bit quieter than the one on d600.
As for lens lineup, I think both camps make some excellent lenses, with each having their own strengths. I obviously really like the Nikon 14-24, as I was using it on my canon. I love my canon 100-400L, and nikon has nothing to compare to it. Nikons 16-35 vr, is better than canon's (though not 2.8) and better than the 17-40. Their primes are comparable, with canon having the 85 1.2. Canon also has the mpe-65 for macro.
If I switched to nikon, I think I would take the tamron 24-70 vr, and the nikon 70-200 2.8 VRII, which I hear is as good as its canon counterpartt, with the exception breathing at close focus at 200mm. Not a huge issue. I will probably pick up the sigma 150 macro, or Nikon's, or whomever's, since all macros are good. I also here Nikon's flash system is more reliable.
At the end of the day, the biggest selling point of nikon for me is the sensor. 5d3 is a fantastic camera, with a 5 year old sensor. I am happy with my lens lineup with canon, and their customer service has been good to me overall. I dont care about the 1K price difference in the bodies, as I will loose more than that trying to switch. Just have to see if the sensor makes enough of a difference.
p.1 #12 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
I'm referring to the basic shutter noise, not the "quiet" version. For those of us shooting live classical music or theater it is important. The "quiet" mode means you get two clicks or sounds instead of one. No matter how quiet these clicks are, two is always worse than one, so I never use the quiet mode. The D600 is very quiet... I haven't heard the Canon. B
p.1 #13 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
the 14-24 on the camera is a dream. its really nice to have autofocus, and excellent sharp corners from f 5.6 on throughout the range. the ability to push shadows is immediatly visible.
Went to a kids party. i have it on single point, continous focus. It was an averagely lit room with artificial light. the lens was the 70-300 VR. the autofocus is decidedly slower, buy a fair margin compared to my 5d3, and tracking is definitely worse. but again, I think at least some of that has to do with the lens.
p.1 #15 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
blutch wrote:
Have you heard the D600 shutter? VERY quiet. Even softer than the D7000. Much much quieter than any other full frame Nikon. I'm very excited about it.
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there is a d600 on display at the costco here, but it's not powered up so i haven't been able to actually hear it. i hope that you are referring to the shutter noise in "continuous"? if so, this is excellent news.
p.1 #16 · Long time canon Shooter, just picked up a d600
blutch wrote:
I'm referring to the basic shutter noise, not the "quiet" version. For those of us shooting live classical music or theater it is important. The "quiet" mode means you get two clicks or sounds instead of one. No matter how quiet these clicks are, two is always worse than one, so I never use the quiet mode. The D600 is very quiet... I haven't heard the Canon. B
A French magazine (chasseur d'image) measures shutter noise intensity in a controlled environment. I don't have them at my side, but if I recall correctly it's something like this :
D600 normal mode : 58 dB
5DIII normal mode : 58 dB
5D III quiet mode : 52 dB
for comparison purposes : X-pro 1 : 49 dB
I remember the D800 as being quite louder than them all.
In their latest edition they couldn't stop raving about the 6D's shutter sound, so I'm impatient to read about their formal results as it might set a new record for a DSLR (at least from the time they started doing such measurements).
Of course it doesn't take into account the quality of the shutter noise, which may also be important. As an example, I find my X-pro 1 to be just as noticeable as my 5DIII, despite being measured lower. I suppose its "clac" sound may be more noticeable than the 5DIII's "woosh woosh" sound (in silent mode).
Seems the build quality of the Nikons are better than the Canons - minus the 1 series.