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Quan
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Hi gaiz, it's been a while
Anywho, I edited a set yesterday in black and white. I liked my conversions well enough while I was editing, but today I thought they were kind of gray. I'm putting a few down here, please critique or apply your own b&w conversions techniques for a fresh view in comparison.
Thanks ya'll!
-q

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Nov 02, 2012 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · B&W conversions


WOW... Quan... back from the dead.


Nov 02, 2012 at 06:46 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · B&W conversions


I like the conversion. Just not sure it works well with the first image(s). Looks wonderful on the second. I see your "gray" remark in the first. The second's classic.


Nov 02, 2012 at 06:46 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · B&W conversions


I think the second one was a bad example. Maybe these will give you a better Idea of what I mean.












Nov 02, 2012 at 06:56 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · B&W conversions


yeah, the 2nd one was actually quite good the way it was, but I see what you mean with your new images, while they still look good, the second one especially seems low contrast


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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · B&W conversions


Quan wrote:
I think the second one was a bad example. Maybe these will give you a better Idea of what I mean.
http://i.imgur.com/YiyP0.jpg


In this image, I think you've got two things working against you. I see what you mean by "gray," and you're also competing with the very bright (white) background object between the heads of the closest and second-closest girls. That object intrudes considerably. The color version benefits from the distinctive aqua color of the dresses, which provide a solid cue to the eye that a face will be sitting on top of that column of aqua. So in this shot, in particular, I think the color version is a better option.

In the original images in the thread, the first pair are just low-contrast images, so they're going to look gray. But I actually think they work better in your B&W conversion than in color. Like those a lot.

As for the next image of the small group in the alcove -- I see what you mean, sort of: the faces are just a bit hard to separate from the other material, and that probably has something to do with local- or overall-contrast levels. But it's not bad. Add a bit of clarity/structure to that one and you might be happier with it.



Nov 02, 2012 at 08:34 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · B&W conversions


I am the opposite of what Ian said as far as the first ones being better in B&W ... i prefer the color images. And i love me some B&W images.
I do agree on the last one with the girls. just darken down the drive way and it will even out the image.

good to see you are still around....

Edited on Nov 03, 2012 at 01:35 PM · View previous versions



Nov 02, 2012 at 10:36 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · B&W conversions


IMO, conversions don't always work best with shallow DOF. I think that's illustrated in the OP, as well as the second set, very well. That's just my opinion. If it's a single subject, it works much better.


Nov 02, 2012 at 11:44 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · B&W conversions


Can't understand why you would want to make the first B&W when such beautiful colour is already present.


Nov 03, 2012 at 12:01 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · B&W conversions


Jon-Mark wrote:
Can't understand why you would want to make the first B&W when such beautiful colour is already present.


Just to fiddle with it, the color version of course will be included as well. But that is just it, I'm wondering if I can make a BW version that looks just as good as the color.

Ian Ivey wrote:
In this image, I think you've got two things working against you. I see what you mean by "gray," and you're also competing with the very bright (white) background object between the heads of the closest and second-closest girls. That object intrudes considerably. The color version benefits from the distinctive aqua color of the dresses, which provide a solid cue to the eye that a face will be sitting on top of that column of aqua. So in this shot, in particular, I think the color version is a better option.

In the original images in the thread, the first
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Valid points. I tried adding more contrast to the same photo but the flesh tone is still the same value as the dress. Guess the value of that aqua blue just happens to be the same as the skin tone.










Nov 03, 2012 at 03:25 AM





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