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p.1 #1 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


I read somewhere, can't find it now, that the newer Canon 100-400 lenses were sharper and with better AF than the older versions. Is there any indication or proof that this is true?


Oct 07, 2012 at 07:16 PM
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p.1 #2 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


There's no proof, just hearsay.


Oct 07, 2012 at 07:30 PM
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p.1 #3 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


What is "newer" in this context though? The most I can think of is improved methods of quality control and manufacturing.


Oct 07, 2012 at 07:48 PM
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p.1 #4 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


I wonder if anyone has any example comparisons?


Oct 07, 2012 at 07:50 PM
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p.1 #5 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


dsr1 wrote:
I wonder if anyone has any example comparisons?


No. What is wrong with the one you have?



Oct 07, 2012 at 08:05 PM
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p.1 #6 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


I don't think think there is any hard rule, and you won't get any statement from Canon on it. It's just that those made prior to 2006 may be more prone to the good-copy, bad- copy syndrome, with the proviso that Canon can often correct a bad copy when sent in. I don't believe Canon have made any design or material changes to the 100-400, however since 2006, in keeping with the more and more demanding camera technology, it would appear that Canon have commensurately tightened their manufacturing and QC standards, making the newer copies more consistent with the original design quality.

My first 100-400 copy bought in 2005 was ok, but I never felt it was as good as it could be, or as good as other copies I knew about. Having sent my copy in for correction three times through CPS, to no avail, earlier this year I decided to sell the old copy and buy a copy from the latest production, and yes, now I feel I have a copy that is as good as it can be, which is excellent.



Oct 07, 2012 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #7 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


No


Oct 07, 2012 at 08:31 PM
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p.1 #8 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


...I might add that at least half of what you "hear about" boils down to user error, and that those that boil down to real issues are not always understood by those who don't have the issues.


Oct 07, 2012 at 09:18 PM
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p.1 #9 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


Its easy to pick up a 100-400, throw a cheap 'protection' UV filter on it, not pay attention to the IS or shutter speeds and produce trash photos.

The 2003 example I used was plenty capable of that, also when used properly it rocked.



Oct 07, 2012 at 09:22 PM
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p.1 #10 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


dsr1 wrote:
I read somewhere, can't find it now, that the newer Canon 100-400 lenses were sharper and with better AF than the older versions. Is there any indication or proof that this is true?



It could be result of latest cameras AF is getting better. Mine is sharp enough as per my requirements and it is about 2 years old



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p.1 #11 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


I've been taking them apart for 4 years. I can say there have been no internal changes in that time.


Oct 07, 2012 at 10:06 PM
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RobDickinson wrote:
Its easy to pick up a 100-400, throw a cheap 'protection' UV filter on it, not pay attention to the IS or shutter speeds and produce trash photos.



It is also as easy to mount an expensive UV filter on it, pay utmost attention to IS and shutter speed, and still produce trash photos.



Oct 07, 2012 at 10:36 PM
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p.1 #13 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


Well thats true!

But I was more talking about your average crop shooter who has poor long lens techniques and little understanding of what shooting at 400mm on a 18mp 1.6 crop can do to images...



Oct 07, 2012 at 10:41 PM
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p.1 #14 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


Mine is 2007 and I thought it was fairly good. I recently had it repaired by Canon and I think it has come back a little better.
A lot of softness with this lens can be caused by user error or not realising the need to get to know it. Between camera shake, atmospheric distortion and slight focus errors a lot of softness can be introduced that is not the fault of the lens.
First time users should not expect it to be a 600mm or 800mm substitute.
There are enough anecdotal stories around to suggest that some early copies were less than perfect, and that more recent copies are more consistent, but a lot of the talk is also caused by user errors and unrealistic expectations.



Oct 08, 2012 at 12:41 AM
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RobDickinson wrote:
Well thats true!

But I was more talking about your average crop shooter who has poor long lens techniques and little understanding of what shooting at 400mm on a 18mp 1.6 crop can do to images...



I understand, I was just kidding.
Longer lenses do require a fair amount of self-discipline, a bit of prior thinking (shot planing), and a peaceful composure while shooting......otherwise, quality will be most likely lacking.
At 400mm FL one just can not get away with snapping away wildly.



Oct 08, 2012 at 04:18 AM
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p.1 #16 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


Thanks for all the replys. Sounds like the same lens just better quality control is the conseus here. I like my 100-400 and don't have a partictular problem with it but had read a couple of times about the new ones being better. I had never heard of any change from Canon. Just wondering if anyone else had. Thanks again.


Oct 08, 2012 at 04:25 AM
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p.1 #17 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


I had a older lens, and it indeed did not seem as good as my new one bought 3 years ago. However, there are lots of possible reasons for this. The first one was from earlier than 2005.




Oct 08, 2012 at 04:49 AM
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p.1 #18 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


Mine is from 2002 and has been great since I used MA.


Oct 08, 2012 at 04:58 AM
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p.1 #19 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


RobDickinson wrote:
Well thats true!

But I was more talking about your average crop shooter who has poor long lens techniques and little understanding of what shooting at 400mm on a 18mp 1.6 crop can do to images...



So a crop shooter has poor long lens technique? I happen to think that mine is pretty good, but,maybe I need to work on it some more before I go full frame.



Oct 08, 2012 at 05:20 AM
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p.1 #20 · Are newer 100-400 lenses better?


rebelshooter wrote:
So a crop shooter has poor long lens technique? I happen to think that mine is pretty good, but,maybe I need to work on it some more before I go full frame.


I was specifically generalising about crop shooters who DO have poor long lens technique, with high mp sensors, its not a good combo.

At what point did I accuse all crop shooters of poor technique.



Oct 08, 2012 at 05:53 AM
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