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p.1 #1 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


In your opinion. If not your opinion is there technological proof of where the sweet spot is...


Oct 06, 2012 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #2 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


We probably haven't yet found it. Stay tuned.


Oct 06, 2012 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #3 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


Some say big pixels are sweet, other say small pixels are cute. I am in the latter group.



Oct 06, 2012 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #4 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


alundeb wrote:
Some say big pixels are sweet, other say small pixels are cute. I am in the latter group.

am easy...i take either one pleasing my eyes



Oct 06, 2012 at 05:52 PM
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p.1 #5 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


What are you trading off to find a 'sweet-spot'. I'm quite happy anywhere from about 16-20 but I'd emphasize low noise quite strongly.


Oct 06, 2012 at 05:57 PM
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p.1 #6 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


About 80-100MP.

EBH



Oct 06, 2012 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #7 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


The 1D (4mp) was great, the 10D (6mp) was better, the 5D (12mp) was phenominal and the 1DsIII (21mp) is outstanding.

46 will hold me for a while.



Oct 06, 2012 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #8 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


Michaelparris wrote:
In your opinion. If not your opinion is there technological proof of where the sweet spot is...


I have no idea. Maybe depends on what you shoot and at what ISO



Oct 06, 2012 at 06:31 PM
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p.1 #9 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


The 'sweet spot' is always moving depending on technology.
If we ignore tech limits then we can dispatch any talk of sweet spots.

I think Sony could do a decent 60-70mp ff sensor right now.



Oct 06, 2012 at 06:41 PM
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p.1 #10 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


I think the current 20-24mp FF resolutions are a real sweet spot.

But, for Landscapers to be totally happy you are looking at 60-80MP and 4fps with 15 stop DR at around $3000.



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Sneakyracer wrote:
I think the current 20-24mp FF resolutions are a real sweet spot.

But, for Landscapers to be totally happy you are looking at 60-80MP and 4fps with 15 stop DR at around $3000.


If prefer that for $1000 if we are making things up



Oct 06, 2012 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #12 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


All things considered, IQ,DR,High ISO shooting....Just as with anything there is an apex where everything is performing at or close to its peek...Just curious as to where some may think that is. There has to be a point where there are too many mp's for that size of sensor and a point where you have not got the most out of it....


Oct 06, 2012 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #13 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


Psychic1 wrote:
The 1D (4mp) was great, the 10D (6mp) was better, the 5D (12mp) was phenominal and the 1DsIII (21mp) is outstanding.

46 will hold me for a while.


But at 4mp they were not getting everything they could from the senor......I am thinking somewhere in the 20-30 mp range. After that you start to see better resolution but start to see more noise at higher iso's



Oct 06, 2012 at 08:15 PM
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p.1 #14 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


RobDickinson wrote:
The 'sweet spot' is always moving depending on technology.
If we ignore tech limits then we can dispatch any talk of sweet spots.

I think Sony could do a decent 60-70mp ff sensor right now.


But with more resolution you will sacrifice the ability to get clean files at higher iso's



Oct 06, 2012 at 08:18 PM
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Michaelparris wrote:
But with more resolution you will sacrifice the ability to get clean files at higher iso's


Thats a myth. D800 has cleaner high ISO than the D700. There are some slight compromises typically in balancing low ISO abilities and high ISO (1dx is tweaked more for higher ISo than the 5d3 , D4 more than the d800 etc) but we are at a point where that is a choice by the manufacturers rather than a limitation of the tech as such.



Oct 06, 2012 at 08:36 PM
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I would like a 80Mp sensor for landscape and group shots. For everything else, I would bin the sensor to 20MP. I think that would be ideal.
At 80MP it could be 2-3FPS.
At 20Mp it would be 6+FPS.



Oct 06, 2012 at 08:51 PM
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p.1 #17 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


RobDickinson wrote:
Thats a myth. D800 has cleaner high ISO than the D700. There are some slight compromises typically in balancing low ISO abilities and high ISO (1dx is tweaked more for higher ISo than the 5d3 , D4 more than the d800 etc) but we are at a point where that is a choice by the manufacturers rather than a limitation of the tech as such.


interesting....



Oct 06, 2012 at 08:58 PM
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matejphoto wrote:
I would like a 80Mp sensor for landscape and group shots. For everything else, I would bin the sensor to 20MP. I think that would be ideal.
At 80MP it could be 2-3FPS.
At 20Mp it would be 6+FPS.


Do you think we will eventually see an 80 mp FF sensor?



Oct 06, 2012 at 09:01 PM
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Michaelparris wrote:
Others seemed to understand it just fine....I stand by my response to your post


Ok. I understand the question. And my answer is the same as everybody else:
Between 20 and 100 MP, and it depends on a lot of things you have not specified.



Oct 06, 2012 at 09:05 PM
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p.1 #20 · MP wise, where's sweet spot on FF sensors...


Michaelparris wrote:
Do you think we will eventually see an 80 mp FF sensor?


Why wouldn't we? My first camera was 1.6 mp.

Are you looking for the 'sweet spot' right now or at some point in the future? Technology will inevitably move forward and what is the best right now will not be the best a year or two from now.



Oct 06, 2012 at 09:14 PM
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