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p.1 #1 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


I have thought about this move since the 24-70II was rumored, I am going to sell my 24L II to fund a 24-70L II. I don't have any zooms right now except the 16-28 Tokina, just primes at 24, 35, 50, 85. 100 macro and 200. I will post some shots if I get some time.


Oct 03, 2012 at 07:56 AM
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p.1 #2 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


You could get the Tamron 24-70 with IS AND keep your 24L II, for about the same kind of money, no?


Oct 03, 2012 at 08:05 AM
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p.1 #3 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


it also depends on how you use it. I have the new 24-70 since recently and also have a 24L II.

I didn't use this wide open very often (in fact, don't use 24mm a lot really) and at 2.8 the 2470 already equals sharpness and contrast. Distortion might be a tad worse, but this new lens is so good I can just as well sell off the 24L.



Oct 03, 2012 at 08:17 AM
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p.1 #4 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


Pain! I would sell the 35, if anything.


Oct 03, 2012 at 08:20 AM
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p.1 #5 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


Eyvind Ness wrote:
You could get the Tamron 24-70 with IS AND keep your 24L II, for about the same kind of money, no?

+ 1
If anything, a 24/1.4 II would be one of my holy grail lenses never to be sold (if I had it, that is). YMMV of course.



Oct 03, 2012 at 09:54 AM
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p.1 #6 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


i'd keep the 35L (which is my holy grail lens together with the 85L), but indeed it depends on your style, preferences, etc. so many options here...good thing is: there's lots of choice!


Oct 03, 2012 at 10:18 AM
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p.1 #7 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


The new 24 - 70 VII is as good as the 24 1.4 II. I sold the 24 after using both. I still have the 50, 85 primes as the bokehs are fantastic but they do collect more dust than ever now. Paired with the 70 - 200 VII it is hard to carry more than 2 lenses now.....


Oct 03, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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p.1 #8 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


Snopchenko wrote:
+ 1
If anything, a 24/1.4 II would be one of my holy grail lenses never to be sold (if I had it, that is). YMMV of course.


+1, why would I replace it with slow zoom?



Oct 03, 2012 at 11:32 AM
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p.1 #9 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


Jack Heckaman wrote:
The new 24 - 70 VII is as good as the 24 1.4 II. I sold the 24 after using both. I still have the 50, 85 primes as the bokehs are fantastic but they do collect more dust than ever now. Paired with the 70 - 200 VII it is hard to carry more than 2 lenses now.....



F2.8 as good as F1.4



Oct 03, 2012 at 11:33 AM
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p.1 #10 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


I would keep the good prime lens.....


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p.1 #11 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


Breitling65 wrote:
F2.8 as good as F1.4


Depends on what's you object, I believe. For me 24mm on 5D II is a wide angle lense for landscape, my prefered aperture is anything F8-F16. Even a F2.8 is way too large for me, not even mentioned F1.4



Oct 03, 2012 at 11:41 AM
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p.1 #12 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


felixshmak wrote:
Depends on what's you object, I believe. For me 24mm on 5D II is a wide angle lense for landscape, my prefered aperture is anything F8-F16. Even a F2.8 is way too large for me, not even mentioned F1.4



Slow lens can't be as good as fast, you or OP might need to add "FOR ME" some place. Try your landscapes handheld while low lights and you will see big difference in shutter speed. I will be getting 24-70II but would not jump replacing 24LII with it. Besides 24LII is much smaller and cheaper lens, as FOR ME it is still better for travel.

Besides how can you sell something producing great IQ?




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Oct 03, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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p.1 #13 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


felixshmak wrote:
Depends on what's you object, I believe. For me 24mm on 5D II is a wide angle lense for landscape, my prefered aperture is anything F8-F16. Even a F2.8 is way too large for me, not even mentioned F1.4

That's a reason of course, but if I had had the 24L I would've been using it for low light journalistic work (which I'm still doing from time to time). Any lens can be stopped well down but not any lens can be opened right up!
Another consideration - with landscape shooting in mind - is barrel distortion: 1.35% with the 24L vs. 2.83% with the 24-70 II (numbers from Photozone). The not-so-funny thing is, the Tamron adds another 1% of barrel on top of the 24-70 II results, which becomes ugly. But maybe the 24L and the Tamron could coexist, each with a different usage scenario in mind. By the way, the Photozone and SLRGear test results show the 24L to be decently and pretty uniformly sharp at f/4 - f/5.6 already - unlike, say, the Sigma 24/1.8 whose sides and corners always lag behind - so it looks perfectly usable for landscape work.



Oct 03, 2012 at 12:00 PM
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p.1 #14 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


If you don't use the 24L for what it is meant for, I can see why you make this move. A 24-70L is a great allround lens for fast documentary style reports, a "one lens does it all" solution for many situations (weddings, receptions, business reports, events and parties etc.). The latest edition is as sharp as one might expect from a top zoomlens. Some minimal distortion and a max opening speed of 2.8 is mainly what seperates this lens from the 24L. If you can live with that, go ahead. Your setup will gain in versatility of the zoom.


But, with the prime setup you have I would think twice to give up the widest fast lens that you have in the bag. Are you sure you're not gonna miss the 1.4 opening in many occasions? If so, is maybe the 35 or 50 not a better candidate to sell? These are more "in between" focal ranges and most photographers have a preference for either 35 or 50 but not both FL's. Is this different for you? Anyway, some of the responses above and my concerns should give you some food for thoughts. Cause in my bag the 24L is a great piece of EOSfun, that I would not give up easily.



Oct 03, 2012 at 12:21 PM
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p.1 #15 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


eosfun wrote:
But, with the prime setup you have I would think twice to give up the widest fast lens that you have in the bag. Are you sure you're not gonna miss the 1.4 opening in many occasions? If so, is maybe the 35 or 50 not a better candidate to sell? These are more "in between" focal ranges and most photographers have a preference for either 35 or 50 but not both FL's.

Good call.



Oct 03, 2012 at 12:33 PM
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p.1 #16 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


I use more the 24L at f1.4-2 than what I use the 50mm wide open


Oct 03, 2012 at 03:07 PM
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p.1 #17 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


This is all great food for thought! I really tend to use my 24L the least out of my primes because I shoot a lot of people in my low light work and at 24 there is too much perspective distortion for me many times. When choosing primes I tend to pair up either 24 and 50 or 35 and 85. The 50 is my favorite lens so I can't sell it (I tried all the other 50s and the 50L is best).

I will consider strongly letting my 35 go instead, good suggestion!

About 1.4 vs 2.8 ... I totally get that you can't replace the speed. There is a reason I have a semi-complete set of short L primes ..and yes I am using them correctly thank you. The move is motivated my my desire to add a superb mid-range zoom. I looked at the tamron and it is nice, but I know myself well. If I buy the tamron I will move to the canon II someday for sure. I will take a major hit on resale value with the Tamron and it will take a long time to sell. I like to keep my options open. Also we have a 24L II and 35L at work I can borrow as needed.

I will now re-read all of your thoughtful comments and make sure I am ready. I really appreciate your advice, that is why I started this thread



Oct 03, 2012 at 03:46 PM
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p.1 #18 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


Also we have a 24L II and 35L at work I can borrow as needed.

That's what makes the decision a lot easier Having EOSfun with someone else's gear is free



Oct 03, 2012 at 04:34 PM
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p.1 #19 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


I've owned primes such as 24/1.4 L I+II, 35/1.4 L, 50/1.8 I+II, 50/1.4, Sigma 50/1.4, 50/1.2 L, 85/1.8, 85/1.2 L I+II. All used on 5D and 5D II. Most of these lenses, I've had more than one time (changed back and forth).

Lately, I've been quite 'stable' and have not made any switches. The Canon gear I currently own is:
- 5D II
- 24/1.4 L II: I really like this lens, especially compared to version I or the Canon 35/1.4 L which I think is too close to my 50/1.2 L in focal length
- 50/1.2 L: this is my favourite Canon lens, I've owned a couple. If I was forced by evil lens-hating aliens to use only one single lens for Canon FF - this would be it! None of the other 50 mm lenses available are of any interest to me...
- 24-85/3.5-4.5: this lens is used exclusively stopped down with flash and in those situations I have a hard time noticing any difference from my previous copies of 24-70/2.8 L or 24-105/4 L IS
- 70-200/2.8 L IS: very versatile and I use it a hell of a lot more than my previously owned telephoto primes such as 85L, 135L, 200L etc

saneproduction wrote:
This is all great food for thought! I really tend to use my 24L the least out of my primes because I shoot a lot of people in my low light work and at 24 there is too much perspective distortion for me many times. When choosing primes I tend to pair up either 24 and 50 or 35 and 85. The 50 is my favorite lens so I can't sell it (I tried all the other 50s and the 50L is best).

I will consider strongly letting my 35 go instead, good suggestion!

About 1.4 vs 2.8 ... I totally get
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Oct 05, 2012 at 08:32 AM
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p.1 #20 · Selling my 24L II for 24-70L II


Agreed with retrofocus..."keep the prime"

A zoom is just a zoom. A good prime opens up doors that zooms can't even find.



Oct 05, 2012 at 11:13 AM
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