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Diavolo
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


Right now I'm shooting a D300s. It's a great little camera and I love it but I find myself yearning for far better low light performance and more MPs.

Pros of keeping the D300s
Keep my 17-55
Far better autofocus point layout with more focus points
AF and AE buttons
More FPS (1.5 more)
Better reach (though with double the MP on the D600 the reach is minimized with the ability to crop 24mp)
1/8000
Smaller

Pros of getting the D600
Far superior low-light performance
More MPs for composites I want to get into and landscapes
Shallower depth of field
I tend to crop often and having the extra real estate helps
Lighter

Does anybody see anything I'm missing in this comparison? I would love a D400 but I don't see that on the horizon any time soon. Right now I currently shoot portraits and use it as a walk around with the occasional HS sports game and kids recitals.



Oct 01, 2012 at 06:38 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


Diavolo wrote:
Right now I'm shooting a D300s. It's a great little camera and I love it but I find myself yearning for far better low light performance and more MPs.

Pros of keeping the D300s
Keep my 17-55
Far better autofocus point layout with more focus points
AF and AE buttons
More FPS (1.5 more)
Better reach (though with double the MP on the D600 the reach is minimized with the ability to crop 24mp)
1/8000
Smaller

Pros of getting the D600
Far superior low-light performance
More MPs for composites I want to get into and landscapes
Shallower depth of field
I tend to crop often and having the extra real estate helps
Lighter

Does anybody
...Show more


I would wait and see if a D400 comes out. I'm not sure I could give up the features and build of a semi-pro body for a stripped down low-end FX body. A D700 would be a better pick, IMHO.



Oct 01, 2012 at 07:50 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


Specs comparisons are everywhere but at the end of the day it comes to what & how you shoot. I moved from D300 to D700 just recently and of course I found a significant difference in the low light department. I did the move because I mainly shoot landscape particularly at night which the D700 excels at. However, I miss my 17-55 as well as the long reach of my 80-200 2.8. I replaced the 17-55 with the decent 28-105 and the Tokina 11-16 with Rokinon 14mm. So basically, I made a slight improvement in body but a huge downgrade in glass! I am saving now for the 24-70 2.8 and the 14-24 2.8. You see, I did it backwards and I regret that.

So my advice is that if you have the $ to pair the D600 with glass equivalent to your DX glass then yes go for it. Otherwise, just save and enjoy your D300s until you can buy glass that matches your DX glass.



Oct 01, 2012 at 08:01 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


I just jumped from DX to FX:

D700
Tokina 16-28 F/2.8
50 1.8G
85 1.8D

This kit is basically what I had on DX, but it's just feels so incredibly ahead of what the D3000, D90, or D7000 were capable of (granted, I know these are still a wonderful cameras).

Maybe grabbing a LNIB D700 is your answer?



Oct 01, 2012 at 11:42 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


I say no.
Keep your D300s with the good glass and keep on truckin!



Oct 02, 2012 at 12:14 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


I agree with Avi - the D600 isn't going anywhere, and Thom Hogan and others have been speculating about a D400 early next year.

I always thought I was a low-light hound, but I chose a D300s over a D7000 and I'm really, really pleased. If I really want to amp up my low-light performance, I'll pick up an 85 f/1.8G.



Oct 02, 2012 at 12:21 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


The d7000 is a very similar camera for half the price. I hate putting money into camera bodies--they drop so fast. My plan is to continue waiting a few months for a D400 (or maybe D7000 upgrade.) I've been putting money into lenses and lighting rather than cameras. Right now I'm using a D5100 I bought for $500. I'm pretty happy with it as an interim. I shoot ISO 3200 pretty cleanly. When D400 comes out I will keep it as a back up. I"d rather have two $1,000 cameras than one $2,000 camera. Lenses hold value a LOT better than camera bodies do. I've just never jumped on the FX bandwagon. I like the extra reach of DX, and the one more stop of DoF you get. I just don't see the cost of FX as being worth it. If I shot a lot of weddings I might have a different opinion, but I'm mainly an outdoor shooter. I'll mention that especially in winter I am mainly a night shooter.


Kent in SD



Oct 02, 2012 at 03:10 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


Here is my advice - Get what you will work for you best. Yes, resale value is something to consider, but unless you are planning on buying a new body every year - I wouldn't worry about it. I personally buy used when I can - but with the D600 being newly released; finding used ones might be a bit hard at the moment.

If you are shooting HS sports, low light will be an issue. Get a body that does excellent in low light. In the next few months (hopefully), I will have to decide between a D600, D700 or D3. I am leaning twords a D3 until I use/test a D700 and D600. I have an F5, and the D3 will have the same exceptional build quality as the F5. I have heard the D700 is pretty well built..



Oct 02, 2012 at 04:21 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


I just went from a wonderful D7000 to a D600. I know a D7000 isn't a D300 in terms of professional body, but I'm a guy who has a 4x5 Linhof Technica that, in the past, was for my serious photography, so I know the difference. Regardless of that experience I find the D600 a dramatic improvement. The full frame changes my lenses, which is the greatest pull for me. I just took a bunch of shots with my 55 3.5 ais micro nikkor near the ocean. It felt like I was shooting a wide angle, lol. The limitations of aps-c for wide angles is very apparent to me now. My 28 3.5 ai lens is an amazing wide angle now, and it only cost me 90 dollars. What could a person not love about that?

The noise and image quality from a raw file is amazing. Most online comparisons show only jpg and when that is the case the canon 5d III looks much better (although to me the 5d III images looks way oversharpened and unnatural), but if you view the raw images on dpreview you will see the D600 clearly equals or bests the 5D III in terms of noise and dynamic range.

I have a Canon system as well and can tell you that the low iso shadows of the D600 and, for that matter, the D7000 are in a totally different class from any Canon DSLR.

Sorry for the fanboyism . I just love this D600, but you won't see the improvement so much if you only use jpg. I can hardly wait for Adobe to release support for D600



Oct 02, 2012 at 07:45 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


It gets annoying hearing the d7000 is basically the same as the d600. It really isn't, different body, much better built in my opinion, handles better and dynamic range. Different ball game...d600 is the force to be reckoned with for enthusiast and pros alike if you don't need the strengths of the d800.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


OP - two things you left out -

1. what glass do you currently have?
2. how much do you have to spend?



Oct 02, 2012 at 01:52 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


I'd stay pat if in doubt. It really depends what you shoot and it's unlikely anyone here offering (well intended)
advice...is in your shoes. So much is dependent on the shooter and the skills one brings to the plate. Often, my
D7K shots rival those from my D800 when printing up to 11 X 14's That's ~$1000 vs $3000 when the bottom
line is prints sold. Guy could buy a lot of glass with the difference...a little less in your case (D300s to D600) but
still, something to consider.



Oct 02, 2012 at 01:54 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


Steve Beck wrote:
It gets annoying hearing the d7000 is basically the same as the d600. It really isn't, different body, much better built in my opinion, handles better and dynamic range. Different ball game...d600 is the force to be reckoned with for enthusiast and pros alike if you don't need the strengths of the d800.


9-10 the cameras can outperform the user (and of course its the cameras fault). you err on the side of specs and forget the other 51+% of the equation, the true wildcard, the user.

D600 no AF fine tune


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Oct 02, 2012 at 02:07 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


sjms wrote:
9-10 the cameras can outperform the user (and of course its the cameras fault). you err on the side of specs and forget the other 51+% of the equation, the true wildcard, the user.


I have hit the ceiling numerous times on what my D5000 can do vs. what I want it to do...especially low light, long exposure, etc.. But I agree that this is often the case.

brad



Oct 02, 2012 at 02:27 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


I would wait while the market gets flooded with D600 bodies.
Nikon seems to be really cranking them out right now.
Look for a sale during Christmas or early spring or buy one used.
Lots of buyers who rush in may want out when they compare to the D800.
Not that there is any thing wrong with the D600, but the D800 is definitely worth more if you can use it's features.

As for the D800, if you are stuck on the D300 body size and build, it will be a better upgrade.

As for Pro Quality Glass, it is always a better investment than camera bodies.
You can pick up an AF-S Nikkor 28-300 for $150 off with your new D600 right now.
This has become my favorite lens and I may get a second one today after testing my D800 set for Medium size Fine JPEG against my D600 at Large Fine JPEG today.
I will also be comparing the 80-400 on each of them.



Oct 02, 2012 at 03:23 PM
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sjms wrote:
9-10 the cameras can outperform the user (and of course its the cameras fault). you err on the side of specs and forget the other 51+% of the equation, the true wildcard, the user.

D600 no AF fine tune


I'm a big advocate of ability over equipment. 99% of statistics are made up. I have a d7000 in my over populated pelican box of camera equipment, they really are two different camera bodies. There comes a time when equipment can be a limiting factor depending on what you photograph.

D600 no af fine tune? Not sure what you mean.



Oct 02, 2012 at 03:41 PM
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I had the 17-55 and it´s a superb lens. I believe, more in lenses than bodies, I love my 20-35 2.8, 35-70 2.8 and they´re quite old. IMO you should wait a little bit. Sometimes I still use my D200 and find it amazing. Maybe a used one in the future as someone tell you, and keep the 300 as a back up.


Oct 02, 2012 at 03:46 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


Steve Beck wrote:
D600 no af fine tune? Not sure what you mean.


Me neither. The D600 definitely DOES have AF fine tune.



Oct 02, 2012 at 06:04 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


I can only comment that the D600's cropped cam derived AF is really just a giant center-clustered AF points. Leaving the rest of the area feeling like the boonies of Detroit.

Focus and recompose baby!



Oct 02, 2012 at 06:47 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Should I or shouldn't I D600 it?


Steve Beck wrote:
[D600 no af fine tune? Not sure what you mean.



In DPreview's early hands-on they reported that the camera had no AF fine tune. I called him out on it on the review comments section and the reviewer finally came back and said he was mistaken and apologized but apparently this myth continues to float around the internet.

brad



Oct 02, 2012 at 06:57 PM
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