p.13 #1 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
gdanmitchell wrote:
And, on a slightly different subject, there is sure a whole lot of wild, wild speculation in this thread...
Anytime you see a thread reach 12 pages, you should know that is the stage at which wild speculation is taking place.
Anytime you see a thread title with "46mp" or "3DX" in a Canon forum you should know that wild speculation is taking place.
p.13 #2 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
alundeb wrote:
If the Digic V can only input 34% more data than a Digic IV, a hypothetical 7DII will not be able to even do 8 fps at 18 MP with one digic V. Some of us will be surprised by the next release.
the 1DX with mirror up can do 14fps so long as iso is not super high, so I imagine it can push, without limit (if it had a differently mirror box, one insanely advanced) more like 13fps*18MP
the new cams also apply CA correction and other things so some of the speed got taken up by fancier processing algorithms, one taking more power than the D3 to D4 ones did, I believe, not sure if they could push through more fps using the old algos or not though, maybe not
p.13 #3 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
jorkata wrote:
Seriously, I think the problem with 24mp @ 8fps is actually readout speed, not Digic throughput.
Maybe Canon will move to a column-parallel ADC architecture like Sony.
Then they will be able to do very high speed readouts.
But if they keep their current architecture, with off-sensor ADCs, I don't think they will do it.
Certainly not with 8 readout channels, like on the current 7D.
And as I said arleady, I don't think they will use 16 channels on a sub $2000 1.6x model (considering that they did not use it on a $3500 FF model).
All speculation and fun, of course.
24 at 8 is less read out speed than 1DX does already though
p.13 #4 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
Will you dippys quit trying to turn a discussion of studio/landscape cameras into a discussion of general purpose cameras. Go play with your 1DX and be happy. You PJs are even worse, leave us alone. One frame per minute is fine with 16 bits and bit slice ADCs that scan one line at a time.
The technology is there, Canon has been slow to adapt. Most semiconductor houses are now using 12 inch wafers while Canon IFAIK is still using 6 inch wafers. The cost difference is tremendous in production units.
p.13 #5 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
Paul Gardner wrote:
Will you dippys quit trying to turn a discussion of studio/landscape cameras into a discussion of general purpose cameras. Go play with your 1DX and be happy. You PJs are even worse, leave us alone. One frame per minute is fine with 16 bits and bit slice ADCs that scan one line at a time.
The technology is there, Canon has been slow to adapt. Most semiconductor houses are now using 12 inch wafers while Canon IFAIK is still using 6 inch wafers. The cost difference is tremendous in production units.
OK but you have to admit over the course of canon digital FF history the pure landscape people have had their needs focused on more than the generalist or action shooter even if this one time the 5D3 didn't improve the landscape side of things much at all.
And 38MP vs 46MP is hardly a HUGE sacrifice IMO even for a pure landscape shooter.
(and if the body is expected to sell to a broad range and largely please many different types it can be priced less too)
p.13 #6 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
skibum5 wrote:
OK but you have to admit over the course of canon digital FF history the pure landscape people have had their needs focused on more than the generalist or action shooter
p.13 #8 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
Loads of speculation and wasted energy...what will be will be and be a result of the competence of the Canon engineers as modified by the Canon marketing dept and accountants / spivs.
I remember reading that prior to the release of the
1Ds2 a 32 MP sensor was available for that body but it never happened for some reason.
p.13 #9 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
chez wrote:
And you claim the difference between 5fps and 6fps will make or break your career...yeh right.
Hi skibum,
I don't get annoyed by you discussing features, and I don't take this too seriously, but for the megapixel difference you are all in for incremental upgrades yourself:
You wrote this:
"Ideally I'd have it 28MP for more reach, 24 doesn't really give one anything new there"
p.13 #11 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
Paul Gardner wrote:
Will you dippys quit trying to turn a discussion of studio/landscape cameras into a discussion of general purpose cameras. Go play with your 1DX and be happy. You PJs are even worse, leave us alone. One frame per minute is fine with 16 bits and bit slice ADCs that scan one line at a time.
The technology is there, Canon has been slow to adapt. Most semiconductor houses are now using 12 inch wafers while Canon IFAIK is still using 6 inch wafers. The cost difference is tremendous in production units.
I guess they just have to spend a 1 bn $ or so... fine tune the process and they are good to go, should be ready for christmas, or not
p.13 #16 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
Didnīt I say I WANT?
It will not be a new 1D body, kewly. It will be something complete new. Canon is not telling "1 series" is merged and split it again half a year later. The new high MP body imo will not be a DSLR. Mirror is not needed any longer for a studio camera. They will make it a wifi controlable mirrorless "M" like body with an excellent EVF. There is a cause, why the "M" has entered the DSLR range on their webpage calling that market "digital cameras with interchangable lenses" now. The "M" surely was not this cause. It is just a nice toy (imo). It would have gone as a P&S, too.
p.13 #17 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
kewlcanon wrote:
Well since you own Canon why don't you set the price to $3000 ... or just dream like you always like to do... or live in your own world .
You wish I would just dream....unfortunately for you, the price for the 5D Mk III dropped severely as I and others predicted half a year ago shortly after it was released (which you severely opposed). Maybe I am still dreaming if a new high MP full frame camera will be announced shortly?! Your business seems to be severely in trouble, man.
Now get me one from B&H or Adorama site with oh so low price like you've predicted six years ago .
Did you also predict Internet was coming ?. Maybe we get the real "Ethernet" soon ? .
Well retro I think I just don't waste time reading your posts anymore sooooo click .
retrofocus wrote:
You wish I would just dream....unfortunately for you, the price for the 5D Mk II dropped severely as I and others predicted half a year ago shortly after it was released (which you severely opposed). Maybe I am still dreaming if a new high MP full frame camera will be announced shortly?! Your business seems to be severely in trouble, man.
p.13 #19 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
OK I wish you good luck .
Ralph Conway wrote:
Didnīt I say I WANT?
It will not be a new 1D body, kewly. It will be something complete new. Canon is not telling "1 series" is merged and split it again half a year later. The new high MP body imo will not be a DSLR. Mirror is not needed any longer for a studio camera. They will make it a wifi controlable mirrorless "M" like body with an excellent EVF. There is a cause, why the "M" has entered the DSLR range on their webpage calling that market "digital cameras with interchangable lenses" now. The "M" surely was not this cause. It is just a nice toy (imo). It would have gone as a P&S, too.
p.13 #20 · 46.1 MP Canon EOS-3D X To Be Announced Before PhotoPlus ?
gdanmitchell wrote:
And the notion, expressed by some (including the supposed quote from a Canon marketing person) that 20-22 MP is a "sweet spot" is sort of silly in that the current cropped sensor cameras already exceed the photosite density of the 20-22MP cameras. ;-)
Speaking of marketing and of marketing-speak... a) Canon statements that 20-22MP represents a "sweet spot" are just exactly what you would expect a company producing 20-22MP sensor cameras to say, b) remind me a bit of what Nikon used to say about cropped sensor cameras when they had no full frame bodies, c) ignore that fact that, for better or for worse, Canon will have little or no choice about producing a camera that "keeps up" with the Nikon D800 and has higher MP count. (I'm not arguing the goodness or badness of such a thing, just pointing out the marketing reality.)
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