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p.7 #1 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


Acutance: (Miscellaneous Technologies / Photography) a physical rather than subjective measure of the sharpness of a photographic image
Acuity is less specific: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/acuity



Oct 05, 2012 at 10:50 PM
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p.7 #2 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


AhamB wrote:
Acutance: (Miscellaneous Technologies / Photography) a physical rather than subjective measure of the sharpness of a photographic image
Acuity is less specific: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/acuity


Thank you for this, but we are ended with a complicated "case" if we shall continue.

My friend Carstenw wrote or intpretated what I wrote as:

"magical property"

but the words I used was crispness/clarity/brillance, perhaps the word acuity is better, but can we not stop it with just saying: some can see it, some can not, and perhaps it is subjective.

MingThein also see it, but perhaps he is better to explain it ?



Oct 05, 2012 at 11:19 PM
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p.7 #3 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


Just downloaded the Sigma program and afterwards I downloaded 4 Sigma-RAWS and did a WB change and then saved it as a Tif.

No problems, no crashing - slow yes, but I was prepared for that, and not more than I easy can live with.

I like that the program starts with my last PP = WB

This was my laptop, later I will try my stationary= Sometimes they do not act the same way (of course)

Both W7 Pro



Oct 06, 2012 at 01:31 AM
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p.7 #4 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


I should add. to myp.7 #4:

I did NOT see this crispness/clarity, (whatever) obvious on my screen, even it is fine, Dell U 2711, but I saw it first "clear" when printed out and hanging beside other huge prints from other cameras.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4081/4929547926_016e260ccc_b.jpg





http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8030/8036419665_44a3c2a84f_b.jpg



Oct 06, 2012 at 01:43 AM
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p.7 #5 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


And also no problems with my stationary - tryed 10 Sigma RAWS from DP2Merrill - and faster than my laptop (it should be= 3.9GHZ, 240SSD and 32 GB RAM) and very smooth= No problems at all so I am ready and I will contact my netdealer now by a mail.

In fact he is waiting for it, and can get it for me from another country

Thank you all.



Oct 06, 2012 at 02:50 AM
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p.7 #6 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


LLoyd Chambers has just arrived after a long photo-trip.

He writes a lot, read it yourself, the link is below, scroll a bit down, but this is interesting:


""To my considerable surprise, I began to prefer the Sigma DP1M to using the Sony NEX-7 or the Fuji X-Pro1 or even the Olympus E-M5, because the Sigma DP1 Merrill produces such amazingly detailed images from its excellent lens with so little fuss— set the aperture, perhaps adjust exposure compensation and you’ll get a sharp image way beyond what other compacts can deliver in the 14-20 megapixel range.""



http://diglloyd.com/



Oct 06, 2012 at 06:09 AM
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p.7 #7 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


It looks like Adorama has the DP2M in stock. I don't see any backordered warnings anywhere on that page.
Adorama

And B&H shows DP1M in stock



Oct 06, 2012 at 07:11 AM
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p.7 #8 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


B&H is closed until Oct 10th for vacation - they are not sending anything out til after that!


Oct 06, 2012 at 08:10 AM
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p.7 #9 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


Kibsgaard wrote:
Det jeg lagde mærke til var, at der var en særlig klarhed eller brilliance eller hvad jeg nu skal kalde det over mine D700 skud = Ikke at man firkantet kan sige,at de var "bedre", fordi de andre fra f.eks. D3x var mere detaljerede, men de havde et særligt "touch" (det kalder vi det også på dansk) , som jeg godt kan lide.


Okay, men heller ikke her er der nogen definition at finde, så vi bliver nok nødt til at lade det være med at du ser noget du godt kan lide i de billeder. Det gør jeg også med mine D3 fotos, men med min D800 kan jeg også få rigtigt smukke billeder, og det kamera er skarpere or har selvfølgelig også meget mere udløsning. Jeg har aldrig prøvet et D3x.

Da jeg så senere læste det MingThein skrev: At D600 ikke havde samme "pixel-level crispness" som D3/D700, så kunne jeg jo straks forstå, hvad han mente

D600eren skal også have et meget stærkere AA filter, så det er jo logiskt.

Det skal jo ikke forstås derhen, at jeg vil bytte mit D3X med et D700, men blot at antal pixels ikke er alt - altid, hvilket jo var det, der startede diskussionen.

Det giver jeg dig ret i.

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Very brief translation: lots of discussion about this and that and pixel size and acuity vs. acutance etc, but in the end he simply sees something he likes in the D700 photos which he doesn't find in D3x photos, in A3+ size prints.



Oct 06, 2012 at 10:30 AM
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p.7 #10 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


ReneMurea wrote:
It looks like Adorama has the DP2M in stock. I don't see any backordered warnings anywhere on that page.
Adorama

And B&H shows DP1M in stock


When you add the DP2M to your cart, Adorama still shows a "*Note: This item is currently back ordered from the Mfr. We have no estimated time of a..." notice.



Oct 06, 2012 at 11:24 AM
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p.7 #11 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


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Edited on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:09 AM · View previous versions



Oct 06, 2012 at 12:13 PM
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p.7 #12 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


carstenw wrote:
Very brief translation: lots of discussion about this and that and pixel size and acuity vs. acutance etc, but in the end he simply sees something he likes in the D700 photos which he doesn't find in D3x photos, in A3+ size prints.


OK, but a bit short:

Of course I will never say, that the D700 is better than the D3x,the opposite is the truth = The D3x is clearly better all in all, but sometimes the reality is not so .....


.....short described, it is like you have got a newer car, and it is better all in all, and you will not go back, but some details with the old car was truly better, because the car- manufactor "forgot" to include that in the new model.

Does that make sense ?

Another thing. If it should be the reason, that the D600 in the areas - described by MingThein - is not as good as D3 and D700 , and that it is a stronger AA-filter, that is the reason, and you have no problems with moire, well, then it is not good, that the AA-filter is stronger,

...but I stick to my own interpretations and not this interpretation.

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And I have to repeat it again: It is first seen for real, when you print out huge looking side by side.and again therefore MingTheins words about better "crispness" made a lot of sense for me.


Edited on Oct 06, 2012 at 02:08 PM · View previous versions



Oct 06, 2012 at 02:02 PM
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p.7 #13 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


Okay, but A3+ is not huge


Oct 06, 2012 at 02:07 PM
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p.7 #14 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


carstenw wrote:
Okay, but A3+ is not huge


You love arguing my friend, and if I should continue it is huge compared to A4 or smaller and bigger than A3

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Oct 06, 2012 at 02:12 PM
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p.7 #15 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


But back to the topic Carsten:

Do you have the DP Merrill ? and if, what do you say compared to some of your other cameras ?




Oct 06, 2012 at 02:14 PM
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p.7 #16 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


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Edited on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:09 AM · View previous versions



Oct 06, 2012 at 02:44 PM
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p.7 #17 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


Thank you for sharing Hulyss= Interesting.


Oct 06, 2012 at 02:53 PM
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p.7 #18 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


The Sigma USA online store told me Thursday they had a bunch of DP2M's in stock. Mine was delivered the next day. Im having one problem that im trying to get used to, too much detail in the photos.


Oct 06, 2012 at 03:00 PM
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p.7 #19 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


hammaggot wrote:
The Sigma USA online store told me Thursday they had a bunch of DP2M's in stock. Mine was delivered the next day. Im having one problem that im trying to get used to, too much detail in the photos.


Congratulations.

If needed let me help you out, I pay for the shipping of course



Oct 06, 2012 at 03:04 PM
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p.7 #20 · Sigma DP2 Merrill: Have any of you tried it?


We talked about the Oly 75mm f/1.8 - today the very thorough Lens Tip has a test:






http://www.lenstip.com/index.php?test=obiektywu&test_ob=351



" On the other hand if all lenses were so good, I would become unemployed pretty quickly."



Oct 06, 2012 at 03:24 PM
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