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I'm interested in the personalities and people that make up this forum for two reasons. Firstly, I'm interested to see whether there are any common characteristics that wedding photographers display and secondly because I'll never have the opportunity to meet many of you and would like to know more about you than your work, posts and websites detail.

So, for those willing, tell us about yourselves. Not the client facing 'brand' but who you really are and what makes you tick. Given that I've asked the question, I'll be bold and take my own advice.

I'm 28 and live with my girlfriend in Hampshire. We moved in together earlier these year after finally getting to the point in our careers where we felt confident making the leap. (Our relationship had been ready for ages!) She's a teacher and somewhat embarrassingly we met online. We like to tell people we met in an airport departure lounge in Timbuktu but the reality is more mundane.

I had a pretty privileged upbringing that featured 10 years of boarding school, great opportunities and a lot of unpleasantness. I always intended to be a RAF pilot but my eyesight wasn't up to it. After trying and failing to make headway in the commercial route, partly due to a breakup with a Canadian girl (I was planning to train in BC) I fell into a sales and IT job with Sun Microsystems. This was a pretty crappy period and I suffered from a fair bit of depression. Concurrently with all this I was working as the manager of an unsigned band. Very long story short, amongst many other things I shot a lot of photography for them. While working at Sun I met a girl whose brother was a Reuters PJ. He was leaving Reuters to get into weddings and I got to know him and for a few years managed his website and IT. While working for him I decided to jack in the job at Sun and have a go at IT and Photography. It quickly became clear that I sucked at IT but was ok at photography. That was 2008.

My brother is probably my closest friend. He's 6 years my elder and has tutored me in the ways of righteousness. The foundation of my musical, filmic and literary tastes come from him. We both struggle to admit we're wrong but he's slightly worse in this area than I! I'm naturally very lazy so I work really hard. While that might sound counterintuitive I think it's based on the fact that I hate the idea of underachieving or 'failing to contribute'.

I'm a natural liberal but with the odd conservative tendency. I don't drink (due to something stupid I once did) and I don't smoke (apart from the occasional at the end of a job) but, as Chris Beaumont will tell you, women are my weakness. My main motivators in life are a pursuit of excellence, sharing time with the people I love and what I would call a healthy balance between work and 'experiences'.

My heroes in life are often, but not always fictional. In times of stress I tend to draw on lessons from shows, films or books that I love. The West Wing, Les Miserables and Once are some of my favourites. Talking of stress, I'm naturally super anxious and spend a lot of my life worrying about stuff while telling myself 'why am I worrying about this?!'. I grew up in a family that never wanted for money yet these days, despite not being very motivated by money, I worry about it a fair bit. I've always had a ridiculous dream that it'd be good to win the lottery. Not because I want to spend all the money but because it'd let my brain focus on other stuff.

I was never arty at school. The closest I got was singing in the choir! I'm also very very competitive, particularly with regards sport. I've never particularly valued fashion, though I like to look good, which is a concept I've wrestled with due to the aesthetic nature of photography. I value photography and art but struggle to see fashion as anything other than artifice. I'm also very cautious of the concept of 'cool' and tend to question the worth of anyone who values it too highly.

Socially my girlfriend tells me I can talk to anyone and am good at making others feel at ease and social situations generally. In myself I find this odd as I consider myself somewhat antisocial. I enjoy my own company and I hate being in a big crowd. I'm much happier one to one.

Finally, I'm a real night owl. It's 3am and I'm on my iPhone in bed!




Sep 21, 2012 at 02:06 AM
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I'm impressed that you typed all that on an iPhone.


Sep 21, 2012 at 02:51 AM
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I am Doug.

I am married to Jackie who is everything to me despite my inability to show her properly on a regular basis (she tells me all the time I suck basically). She is the only person I have ever met who does not judge me, lets me think, do, be, and say exactly what I want and I will always love her for that.

I come from a suburb of Cleveland. I had a strong midwest catholic upbringing and spend the better part of the last 15 years trying to dig myself out of that conservative trap.

My midwest upbringing and shallow minded parents led me to the viewpoint that as humans we tend to hold ourselves back from doing whatever it is we really want to do. Fear, money, time, resources... They all get in the way. One of my goals in life is to move past those boundaries so that I can do and experience whatever it is that I want to do.

I am very lucky because I can do pretty much all things fairly decently (except soccer and basketball) but I am no master or expert at any one thing.
I wanted to go to college in Colorado but my parents made me go to a state school to my dismay. That is where I met Jackie and became a die hard Buckeye football fan so I suppose on those two accounts it was ok that I did not go out west.

I have always dreamed of bigger and "better" things being out there. I love to travel, I love to hike, I love mountains, I like doing things that seem slightly crazy to most people because I can. For instance this year on New Years day I donned my wetsuit and went for a 30 minute swim in Lake Erie amongst the large pieces of ice.... why.... because I could. That simple.
I like to think of myself as forward thinking and open minded. I am the least political person ever. I simply do not care at all. I am neither conservative nor liberal... I just am.

I also am hard to upset and disturb and although Jackie would say that I am pissed off a lot I just like to yell and bitch for a few seconds and then I move on.

I like to think of myself as fairly simple. I love photography and really feel like this is my place.. my home... no matter how much money I make or where we move or how old we are I am a photographer. It just fits me best.
My second love would be snowboarding/hiking. Like I said earlier I like doing things that others would find somewhat crazy. Jackie and I just got done planning a 7 month long trip to Nepal and Thailand and this coming spring I hope to summit 2 peaks that are 6000m+. I have been planning and training hard for the past year and quite frankly I am kind of stressed about not having all my wedding work done before we leave.
I own two weimariners. Gunner and Layla. I bought them because I enjoy William Wegman pictures and grew up watching the dogs on Sesame Street. I believe they are a superior breed of dog and will only ever own then despite their maniac tendencies and problems with OCD.

I used to be a teacher but quite because I found the children to be a nuisance and was displeased with the overall system of education and the difficulties of running a business from my classroom. We used to rent a house in Columbus but recently moved out of it and into my parents basement in order to save money and to travel wherever the hell we want to with total disregard for normal life procedures for midwestern late 20's people. I love every minute of it. When we get back from Nepal we will move to Colorado and finally escape the midwest.


My weaknesses... cigars, cameras, cycling, natalie portman, star wars, american idol, twilight, tattoos, women with tattoos, zamberlan boots, gore tex, and very tall mountains with snow... and fred miranda.

That is me in a nutshell.


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Sep 21, 2012 at 03:06 AM
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Dear God. Third!


Sep 21, 2012 at 03:10 AM
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jcolman wrote:
I'm impressed that you typed all that on an iPhone.


Maybe he received the 4" screen version a few days early.



Sep 21, 2012 at 03:18 AM
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Sep 21, 2012 at 03:18 AM
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Sure.. why not... I'm bored. This will probably be all over the place and not follow a good timeline....

I'm Josh

I too am a life long midwesterner, except I hate all things Ohio State, mainly because of 12 years of working in Columbus with all the other ohio state D-bags (doug excluded)

I was born in FL to a great mother, and an abusive father. We left him when I was less than a year after he hit my mother, then me. My mom married my "dad" who adopted me when I was 5... they divorced when I was 7 and my sister was 2. My mom struggled working multiple jobs while my dad sat unemployed and not paying child support. I went to a school full of racist rednecks who constantly bullied and threatened me because I had non-white friends from other schools. Death threats, people circling my house and trying to run us off the road were a daily occurrence.


I met my wife in 8th grade study hall thanks to alphabetical order. She was my first serious girlfriend. We parted ways, but reconnected a few years later my junior year in high school and have been together since (1997)

My wife and eloped and got married on a beach in the Bahamas at the atlantis resort. 5 years later we had our first son, Kingston. 2.5 years later we welcomed our 2nd son, Sol, then 2.5yrs later (4 months ago) we had a daughter, Moxie. My family means everything to me. I want to give my wife and kids everything I didn't have growing up. I want them to see how much I love them and their mother and try every day to make sure they know.

I have held a steady job since I was 15. I worked at a local pizza shop in high school putting in 40+hrs a week, plus going to school. After school I worked for a little while as a furniture repo man for a rent to own company... most depressing job ever. Got lucky and had my cousin offer to hook me up with a job where he worked. That started my career in telecom. I worked there for 12 years until I was laid off in July of 2011. I got lucky and immediately found another telecom job working third shift in a NOC (network ops center... I troubleshoot and fix things)


I'm fairly handy. I can fix cars, build things and if I don't know how to do something, I research and learn how to do it.

I live in the woods in the middle of no where and wouldn't trade it for anything, even if I do have a 80mile 1way commute to work.

I enjoy good beer.

My wife and I are homebodies. We like to occasionally go out, but our idea of a good night is sitting outside by a nice fire just enjoying the "country quiet"

lastly, I'm a laid back easy going person.. I like to joke around and have a good time.



Sep 21, 2012 at 05:01 AM
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Josh Evilsizor is cool. We are good friends even though he hates OSU... which I actually never knew haha.
I do not know if I will ever have kids but I am always impressed with good fathers... This forum has lots of good fathers... Josh, Chuck, Inku, Rich, etc.
I admire that a lot.... my father is fantastic....so it is not like I missed having a father I just find good fathers enjoyable.



Sep 21, 2012 at 05:34 AM
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hardlyboring wrote:
Josh Evilsizor is cool. We are good friends even though he hates OSU... which I actually never knew haha.


I thought I'd mentioned it before... it's mainly buckeye football fans.



Sep 21, 2012 at 06:21 AM
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This is as interesting as I imagined it might be. Thanks for taking the time guys.


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Very interesting thread, I'm not sure I agree that your weakness is women though, I think Charlotte is very safe, you just rather like Rachel Riley's arse....which is perfectly natural.

I'm Chris, obviously, I've met, worked with, crashed on sofas of most of the regular (UK based) posters to this board, only BK has escaped my grasp, twice I've been supposed to meet him and he's escaped.

I was born in Norfolk, luckily with the correct amount of fingers of toes before anyone asks, but have spent most of my life trying, unsuccessfully, to escape from deepest, ruralist Lincolnshire with its safe Tory seats, BNP undertones and general air of inbreeding.

Being an absolute smegging genius obviously I was always destined to win a place at the local Grammar School, which I reputedly did by getting precisely one point over the required pass grade....this has pretty much set the tone for everything I've done with the rest of my life, just about doing enough to avoid trouble.

After getting decentish grades for GSCE (all A*-B) and A-levels, despite not doing a single day's revision, I applied for the same university as my 2 best friends, about a week before the deadline, because actually planning stuff ahead of time to do what's best for me isn't in my nature apparently.

I cruised through University doing as little work and as much drinking as I could without getting thrown out of University or into A&E.

Like Tony I was also destined to be an RAF pilot, I'd been flying gliders since I was 14, flew solo on my 16th birthday, flew in the national championships at 19, was accepted into the University Air Squadron after getting the highest possible grade on the RAF pilot aptitude tests at OASC Cranwell, all I had to do was graduate and say yes when asked if I wanted my place.

Unfortunately it was around this time (about 6 months after the Iraq war starting) that I had the first symptoms of what has since developed into full-blown commie pinko leftie socialist hippie liberal wanker disease, and I decided I was no longer sure I wanted to be the guy pulling the trigger at people who just seemed justifiably pissed off at us for invading their country.

Post graduation I got a job in sales/marketing after lying that I knew how to use Photoshop, a lie I successfully covered by basically staying about a day ahead of the boss' son's knowledge for the first month, thank god for internet tutorials.

After 2 years in this job I was in charge of sales, as well as doing all of the photography and designing of all the company's marketing and sales promo materials......whilst being paid just about enough to buy one pretty girl a week a nice enough dinner to keep me happy.

I also owned a 350D by this point, which 9 months later was joined by a 30D and 24-70L and I decided I enjoyed photographing enough that it had to be worth a shot, I couldn't be earning less I thought.....how naive we youth can be.......

The rest of this is pretty predictable, one day a friend with no money asked me to do their wedding etc etc

I enjoyed the wedding, and in 2008 I did my first advert putting my name out to the world of engaged people looking to only spend 200 on their photos.

I had also resigned from my job after they tried to force cold-calling businesses on me, my combination of crippling shyness with strangers and headstrong stubbornness with those I do know made it inevitable that I would quit when asked to do this.

So here I am, 2 cameras and a couple of L lenses, putting my name out there with about 3 spare cash to my name, starting a new business within a week of the biggest recession in 80 years happening.

I've essentially eeked out a modest living ever since, never having enough spare cash to actually do the advertising campaigns I'd like or upgrade the equipment I kinda need to.

This year was my worst year in business, I'm not entirely sure how I made it through, but somehow (mostly by second shooting for Beckett) I did, and have actually started to have things pick up for 2013, I've got more weddings booked for next year than I ever have had almost a year ahead of the season before, I'm starting to feel slightly optimistic.

There's also the story of how I met Kady which I will let others tell as they've all added their own hyperbolic interpretations which are far more interesting than the facts.



Sep 21, 2012 at 01:53 PM
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Interesting stuff Chris. I really enjoy your writing style.

How you met Kady? I honestly don't believe I know. I just assumed you read Game of Thrones, figured you were Jon Snow, decided you needed a girl 'kissed-by-fire' and stole her from the bosom of her family. I might be wrong though...



Sep 21, 2012 at 02:01 PM
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The stealing from bosom of family isn't far off.

I was the photographer.

She was the guest at the crazy booth.

Who e-mailed a month after the wedding.

To order prints.

Of the photo....


....of her and her boyfriend.

Who a week later wasn't her boyfriend anymore.



Sep 21, 2012 at 02:06 PM
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SCHWING! You stud muffin you. Did you ride off with her over the back of your saddle?


Sep 21, 2012 at 02:07 PM
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Alfa backseats are very spacious and luxurious.......

And if she ever finds out I lied and implied that she'd kill me.

She was very proper and ladylike, wouldn't even flirt until she'd broken up with him.



Sep 21, 2012 at 02:10 PM
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As for future plans, I'd like to do weddings for 5-10 more years then retrain either as a journalist (if there's still money in it in 10 years!!!) or a psychologist.

I love photography but even after 4 years, by September I'm getting pretty hacked off with Bobs and Vicars, come Feb I can't wait to do it all again, but I wonder how long that will last.



Sep 21, 2012 at 02:12 PM
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I thought everyone knew that story! BTW Chris, only true w***ers get those kind of GCSE and A level results, especially with no revision, I wouldn't boast about it, I hate people like you (and my wife actually who got even better results than you!).


Sep 21, 2012 at 02:16 PM
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I'd write my life story but not sure if Chris would ever talk to me again and more to the point, I would prefer HMRC didn't know....


Sep 21, 2012 at 02:17 PM
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My excuse for that is that I also didn't do any homework for the previous 3 years.

I basically passed my GCSEs based on being an utter smartarse who thought he knew everything already and didn't have to listen to his teachers.

I look back now and honestly don't think I'm flattering myself to say that if I'd applied myself I could at least have had a good shot at Oxbridge, 12 others from my school year did.

Hell I could have been an MP by now.

It's probably good for any right-leaning UK peeps' blood pressure that I didn't though.

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Sep 21, 2012 at 02:19 PM
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I'd write some clever comment but trying to stop my 1.5 year old dive bombing the fish tank....


Sep 21, 2012 at 02:22 PM
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