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NCAndy wrote:
I'll be back in the same gym this weekend and will bring my 7D and try to get a few action shots at 12800 ISO.

edit. I didn't know the 7D could go to 12800 but then I always keep ISO expansion off.


Same here!



Sep 21, 2012 at 05:13 PM
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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Here is one from my camera. Leica X2 @ 12,500 ISO straight out of camera.

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Sep 21, 2012 at 05:17 PM
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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


TO ALL:
Thanks for continuing the discussion and the posted photos are great to see.

You folks have just posted a lot of information to consider (and photos) and unfortunately I am in a rush now on the road, so stopped in a McDonalds to check my email and to say:

Thanks folks!

When I have more time to look at the net and respond, I will.

Have a good weekend!



Sep 21, 2012 at 05:21 PM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Off to shoot a concert tomorrow, last time I was there lighting was really nasty, have been assured it will be better this time. Will make a point of getting some ISO 12800 shots with my 1D MkIV for the thread. Usually have a 24-70 f2.8, 70 - 200 f2.8 & 135 f2.0. Good shots so far to show what is capable, hope I don't disappoint with mine.


Sep 21, 2012 at 08:25 PM
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I'll post some 12800 from 5D3 and 1DIV tomorrow night or Sunday morning


Sep 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM
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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


I took some pics this evening at the gym. 7D at 12800, 135 @f2.0, 640. I dropped the exposure just 0.10 in LR4 so it was pretty close. The cycling lights cause problems and you can the right edge of the image shows this. I had to boost the right half exposure with the grad tool +1.24.





This image has default sharpening and NR in LR 4. Some levels corrections were applied as well as a crop.







This image has shapening 55/0.8/35/0 and Lum NR 40/50/0.







This image was run through Define 2.0 on auto, then sharpened as above.




Sep 22, 2012 at 01:52 AM
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Here's a D3s ISO 12,800 photo, shot under tungsten:
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Sep 22, 2012 at 01:57 AM
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As you can see above the cycling lights create all kinds of issues. However, I think decent prints can be made as long as one doesn't need to crop too much. This pic has about 80% of the original.


Sep 22, 2012 at 01:59 AM
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snapsy wrote:
Here's a D3s ISO 12,800 photo, shot under tungsten:
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Hi Snapsy,
Depending on how you processed the image (assuming no 3rd party or other strong noise removal) my impression is that the D3s is a magnificent high ISO imaging machine and lives up to its rep. Better than 7D and better than my 5DmkII...



Sep 22, 2012 at 06:43 AM
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NCAndy wrote:
As you can see above the cycling lights create all kinds of issues. However, I think decent prints can be made as long as one doesn't need to crop too much. This pic has about 80% of the original.

I think your image could easily be made noise free if using a layered Photoshop file. You could even try to remove the colour cast on the right by applying WB correction in your LR gradient.

My conclusion is that for many of these images, ISO12800 can yield excellent results if you put about 10 minutes of work into a single image. This makes it an interesting emergency ISO setting for me. Emergency only because it compromises PP time, not IQ.



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rabbitmountain wrote:
Hi Snapsy,
Depending on how you processed the image (assuming no 3rd party or other strong noise removal) my impression is that the D3s is a magnificent high ISO imaging machine and lives up to its rep. Better than 7D and better than my 5DmkII...


I processed it in LR4 and did NR on the OOF areas by exporting the image from LR4, one with and one without NR...and used CS5 to layer the NR onto the OOF area, along with large-radius sharpening to bring local contrast to the face. Even D3s images can use some PP help



Sep 22, 2012 at 07:48 AM
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Right Snapsy, gotcha. Well done.

Here is a sample from this morning, containing a darker element (shadows). The crop shows 25% of the original frame (50% crop in each direction).

You will notice the horizontal banding in the shadow area. Topaz DeNoise5 takes care of it.

[Edit: Please note that this is only possible to cleanup so well because the dark areas don't contain the subject. If I would underexpose a face at ISO12800 there's not much you can do. It's going to look awful no matter what PP you do. This is why I always use Manual Exposure and spot metering on faces, especially when using high ISO's like this.]

5DmkII ISO12800, LR4.1 Adobe Standard, standard NR





5DmkII ISO12800, LR4.1 Adobe Standard, standard NR + Topaz DeNoise 5 (moderate) in dual layer Photoshop CS5






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Sep 22, 2012 at 09:55 AM
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rabbitmountain wrote:
I think your image could easily be made noise free if using a layered Photoshop file. You could even try to remove the colour cast on the right by applying WB correction in your LR gradient.

My conclusion is that for many of these images, ISO12800 can yield excellent results if you put about 10 minutes of work into a single image. This makes it an interesting emergency ISO setting for me. Emergency only because it compromises PP time, not IQ.


The problem is when dealing with 100s of images that extra 10 min can't happen. I guess if there is one exceptional frame then maybe. Even NR in Define 2.0 takes too much time over applying it in LR. It's the same for correcting for the cycling lights. Each image is unique and requires extra time to process. It's not that it can't be done but that it's not practical with many photos.



Sep 22, 2012 at 11:49 AM
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Sep 22, 2012 at 01:02 PM
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NCAndy wrote:
The problem is when dealing with 100s of images that extra 10 min can't happen. I guess if there is one exceptional frame then maybe. Even NR in Define 2.0 takes too much time over applying it in LR. It's the same for correcting for the cycling lights. Each image is unique and requires extra time to process. It's not that it can't be done but that it's not practical with many photos.

Quite. Everyone's needs and workflow is different. When composing a wedding album for instance, it's not about 100's of images (maybe 50~80 tops) and there will only be like 5 or 10 needing extra care. That is very feasible and that is what I meant when I said "emergencies". If, like you, it's about a whole bunch then yes I agree, it can't be done. Many noise removal software packages feature batch processing, but usually that won't do because you'll need to exclude the subject in focus from the NR layer.

Oh well.....it's nice to have for incidental "emergencies". I could not do it with my 5D, as it ends @ISO3200. This is a substantial feature of the 5DmkII.



Sep 22, 2012 at 02:37 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


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Sep 22, 2012 at 02:55 PM
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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Thanks for posting those sample photos. Good examples to see.


Sep 22, 2012 at 05:59 PM
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rabbitmountain wrote:
I think your image could easily be made noise free if using a layered Photoshop file. You could even try to remove the colour cast on the right by applying WB correction in your LR gradient.

My conclusion is that for many of these images, ISO12800 can yield excellent results if you put about 10 minutes of work into a single image. This makes it an interesting emergency ISO setting for me. Emergency only because it compromises PP time, not IQ.


Thanks for posting this opinion (and earlier examples and notes). I found it helpful to considering 12,800 ISO.



Sep 22, 2012 at 06:00 PM
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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


I dont shoot much at this iso and as a matter of fact, just shot this one as a test to see how it actually looked. This is with a T3i, 70-200 and ran thru Topaz Denoise with a moderate setting I believe. Im quite satisfied that this would work in a pinch. At least for sports. Hope it helps.




Sep 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM
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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


I shot a bunch of high ISO photos today for National Gymnastics Day. Most were at 12800 but since I was using the 5D3 I tried 25600. I was quite please with the 12800 images. They were easily better than the 7D at the same ISO. Better noise, color and resolution for the same high ISO. A few of the 25600 pics were usable though in some others I noticed vertical banding that was very intrusive. The 5D3 makes me wonder what the 1Dx can do at very high ISO.


Sep 23, 2012 at 02:54 AM
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