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p.1 #1 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Howdy,

REASON FOR THIS POST:
As digital sensor technology (and software) has advanced, the ISO settings one may have used in the film era may no longer be the ones we use today, in "day to day shooting" or in this case "night to night" shooting. In the past folks may have been reluctant to shoot at ISO800 except in extreme cases. Now the ISO boundaries are being pushed higher and higher.

MY REQUEST:
I am interested in seeing some images from Canon cameras (e.g. 7D especially, but not only that camera) that were shot at the highest ISO possible for some cameras (ISO Expansion to 12,800).

I expect that most of these were shot in dim lighting conditions or in special circumstances.

I am NOT interested in sample charts (e.g. from dpreview or elsewhere) or still life photos off of lens testing sites.

I AM more interested in average subjects (people, landscapes, action, travel, sports etc.) as shot by members of this forum. "Real World" examples are preferred.

Feel free to post your examples here in this discussion. Sorry, I don't have any at this time.

Please post the camera body used, the ISO (12,800) and anything else you want to say about the lens you used or the situation or your satisfaction with the image quality given the need to shoot at such a high ISO.

IF you used noise reduction software after the shot, please mention that and whether it was "mild" or "extreme" use. Otherwise I will assume you shot with "Standard" Noise Reduction setting on your camera body.



Sep 19, 2012 at 08:19 PM
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p.1 #2 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Basically my whole website MMA gallery from this year.

1DIV, 24-70, 70-200, 16-35 were the lenses. Show raw. Noise reduction in LR usually 10-18 on the slider. Done.



Sep 19, 2012 at 08:49 PM
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p.1 #3 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


RobertLynn wrote:
Basically my whole website MMA gallery from this year.

1DIV, 24-70, 70-200, 16-35 were the lenses. Show raw. Noise reduction in LR usually 10-18 on the slider. Done.


Thanks Robert.

How do you like the image quality (regarding noise etc.) at that ISO?

Of course this is with the understanding that it was probably necessary to shoot at that ISO given the light available, etc.



Sep 19, 2012 at 09:10 PM
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p.1 #4 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


RobertLynn wrote:
Basically my whole website MMA gallery from this year.

1DIV, 24-70, 70-200, 16-35 were the lenses. Show raw. Noise reduction in LR usually 10-18 on the slider. Done.


I just took a look at some of the shots for MMA (virginia I believe).

You are getting some very nice action shots there (one I liked was at ISO 6400). It is shown as image 122 of 679 (virginia).

By the way, I did not find an easy to see way to identify an image except as above (122 of 679) and did not see a unique image number or code to tell you. This photo shows a man with dreadlocks kicking and opponent ducking.

Good job!

Just curious: How are you getting the shots (low POV) without the fence in picture?



Sep 19, 2012 at 09:19 PM
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p.1 #5 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Here's one at 12800 from the 5D3










Sep 19, 2012 at 09:19 PM
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p.1 #6 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Posted this in another thread recently.

7D + 500 f4 IS + Canon 1.4x TC, 700 mm, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 12800, manual exposure in available light (ETTR), 475B tripod/516 fluid head, near full frame resized to 1200x800.







Full-res image



Sep 19, 2012 at 09:24 PM
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p.1 #7 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


I wanted to test out my new 300mm and this was the first quick shot taken.
5D3, 300mm @ f/2.8, 1/125, ISO 12,800
Lightroom NR= Lum=18, Detail=50, Contrast=0



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Sep 19, 2012 at 09:34 PM
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p.1 #8 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Thanks folks! Those are some very nice (surprisingly NICE) photos at that high ISO.

Very good to see and it shows that at some light levels the images can look very nice at HIGH ISO.

Now, how about some shots with lower ambient light levels?

In other words.... "Keep 'em coming!"



Sep 19, 2012 at 09:45 PM
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p.1 #9 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


I was trying out my back then new 5D Mark III. This is one of the first shots taken at ISO 25,600. I figured that would be the highest ISO setting I would ever use with that camera. In comparison, I also took basically the same shot at ISO 100. I used a tripod for that test shot though and I believe I overexposed it like 1/3-stop but I am not 100% sure. Processed in LR first using my own preset, I ran Dfine at automatic setting and finally I used Nik's Silver Efex Pro to render it like displayed.



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Sep 19, 2012 at 09:54 PM
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p.1 #10 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Here's a couple of sports one.

5D3, 300/2.8 NR 25 in LR and sharpening 50






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p.1 #11 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


This was shot from inside the Sistine Chapel and it is the ceiling of the Sistene Chapel. Shot in June of this year at around 5:30PM Very dark environment except for the light coming in from the window. Body used was a Mark4, ISO 12,800, lens was a 17-40/4, shot at F4 for a little more dof, AV mode, ss@100. No noise reduction software used, just cropped.

Here's to give you an idea of the amount of light coming in.

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This one is from inside St. Peter's Basilica. (ss@320)

Michaelangelo's 'Pieta"
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Sep 19, 2012 at 10:12 PM
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p.1 #12 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Fish On wrote:
This was shot from inside the Sistine Chapel and it is the ceiling of the Sistene Chapel. Shot in June of this year at around 5:30PM Very dark environment except for the light coming in from the window. Body used was a Mark4, ISO 12,800, lens was a 17-40/4, shot at F4 for a little more dof, AV mode, ss@100. No noise reduction software used, just cropped.

Here's to give you an idea of the amount of light coming in.

1) http://jrlsphotos.smugmug.com/Family-Pictures-all/Vacation-pictures/Mediterranean-2012-Rome-Italy/i-Z6p7Zm4/0/L/M4JS8582-L.jpg


Last time I went there, I recall that they didn't allow photography inside the Sistine Chapel. Has this policy been changed?



Sep 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM
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Wahoowa wrote:
Last time I went there, I recall that they didn't allow photography inside the Sistine Chapel. Has this policy been changed?


I doubt it -- that photo looks like it was shot from the hip. Of course if it's not flash photography it doesn't really matter, but I'm sure they don't want to spend the effort discerning between the two -- it's easier to just keep shouting "NO PHOTO!!!" over and over.

The Sistine Chapel had to be one of my biggest disappointments in Europe. Of course I went on a Saturday, which didn't help.



Sep 19, 2012 at 11:23 PM
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p.1 #14 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


The low POV without the fence in the picture is a result of f/2.8, and the fence being very close to the lens along with a telephoto length. Really anything over 80mm or so on 1.3 crop seems to do a good job of not having the fence show up. The REAL problem with it is this, the light hits it at different angles and it can degrade image quality by having flare and things like that.

I wish the files were as clean as 1600 or lower, but the reality is a lot of these shows aren't putting the money into professional lighting, so I've got to use cameras that are crazier lol.

With that said, I use the 7D, 1DIV and previous to the IV 1DIII's. The 1DIII did really well given the 6400 cap. The onlyt hings I don't like are the dynamic range we lose at those ISO's, and the fact that these promoters use really stupid colored mats, and at that high of an ISO it seems that it's difficult to recover the detail. This is with any camera I've used, not just those models, and realistically what do I want out of something that is flat lit with stupid mat colors in the shadows?

The 7D I was never really fond of 12800 BUT that doesn't mean they can't be processed. I just couldn't do it well. I like the 1DIV's at 12800 but haven't tried the 5D3 there yet.

The 7D is a fine camera. I'm only selling mine because I don't need a fourth body anymore and I own 2 1DIV's and a 5D3. I really enjoyed the 7D and the IQ at 3200-6400 was fine for 8x10's for me with no real additional processing.



Sep 19, 2012 at 11:32 PM
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p.1 #15 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Adam Jones wrote:
I doubt it -- that photo looks like it was shot from the hip. Of course if it's not flash photography it doesn't really matter, but I'm sure they don't want to spend the effort discerning between the two -- it's easier to just keep shouting "NO PHOTO!!!" over and over.

The Sistine Chapel had to be one of my biggest disappointments in Europe. Of course I went on a Saturday, which didn't help.


Yeah, I think that's the case. And that's what I kept hearing when I was there too. "No photo! No photo!', while several people were trying to sneak a few shots. I wanted to take some too, but I had to resist my urge. I understand that flash photography is what that ruins these stuffs. However, my principle is that, if I tried to take photos, I might encourage people around me to take some too. And there are always people who don't know how to disable flash. Also, this might not be the reason. Maybe, they probably just want to protect its license or they consider it as a sacred place. Anyway, I took enough photos of everything else that I allowed to. It was a memorable trip for me.

BTW, why were you disappointed?



Sep 19, 2012 at 11:33 PM
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Sep 20, 2012 at 12:18 AM
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p.1 #17 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


I don't have any 12,800 images but I have a ton of 6400 shots. For what it is worth I'll just offer up one as it isn't fully what the OP was asking for. With that in mind I do think a shot at 6400 does add value to the discussion.

Tim




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Sep 20, 2012 at 12:27 AM
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p.1 #18 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Everyone is posting these nicely finished pics so I thought I'd add one heavily cropped photo. No sharpening or NR was used in LR4, just default values. The players were quite far away and my flash just didn't add much to the exposure. I used a 5D3 with a 200 f2.0 + 1.4xIII at 10,000 ISO then pushed 1.3 stops in LR4. The photo was cropped to 2500x2000 then resized to 1000x800. Standard screen sharpening was used for screen output.

You can easily see the noise but it actually cleans up pretty well.




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Sep 20, 2012 at 02:46 AM
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p.1 #19 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


no great shakes of a shot, & not quite 12800 but 10000+1/3 EC plus 1/3 exposure boost LR. Probably cropped 20% away/ Processed for print 5min LR for noise/ highlights/ black point, etc I dunno. 5D3 200/2 1/800 eval meter & HSS fill (minus 3, I think). Thats abt all I remember but I can make 8x10 prints with that. And 12x16's um, "aint that bad". Sorry for all the acronyms.







Sep 20, 2012 at 03:34 AM
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p.1 #20 · ISO 12,800 Images (post your examples here)


Here's two quick examples from tonight in SLC. Full images, no NR, light USM. Images taken handheld with 1DX + 85/1.2.at f/2, ISO 12800, 1/60 sec. I make that to be 1 EV. Very dark. Not bad.











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