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p.1 #1 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

What do you suppose this is ?

I'm thinking it'll be out of the reach for most of us, price wise, whatever it is...

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/sony-and-hasselblad-pro-mirrorless-cameras-coming-soon/

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Sep 10, 2012 at 10:56 AM

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p.1 #2 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

To be honest I think Hasselblad has stopped being Hasselblad long time ago. Since they started introducing plastic bodies and lenses made in japan and china instead of Sweden and Germany.

Sep 10, 2012 at 11:14 AM

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p.1 #3 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

Digital XPan!?

Sep 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM

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p.1 #4 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

edwardkaraa wrote:
To be honest I think Hasselblad has stopped being Hasselblad long time ago. Since they started introducing plastic bodies and lenses made in japan and china instead of Sweden and Germany.

I have same thought as you. Are those fujinon lenses as good as Zeiss's? They are very expensive, but look like a EF-S 18-55 kit lens to me.

Sep 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM

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p.1 #5 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

phuang3 wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote:
To be honest I think Hasselblad has stopped being Hasselblad long time ago. Since they started introducing plastic bodies and lenses made in japan and china instead of Sweden and Germany.

I have same thought as you. Are those fujinon lenses as good as Zeiss's? They are very expensive, but look like a EF-S 18-55 kit lens to me.

Michael Reichmann at luminous landscape had one of his lenses fall apart in his hands a few years ago.

I personally don't feel comfortable with all that plastic especially that prices are very high.

Sep 10, 2012 at 12:05 PM

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p.1 #6 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

I'm very curious to see what this is. It's rumored to possibly use a larger than FF SONY Cmos sensor. I'm guessing it's a mirrorless ILC of some sort and I suspect it will be an entire system.

I have been shooting with a Hasselblad H3D39 for the past week or so (borrowed, not bought!) and it's definitely NOT at the level of classic blads. The body is creaky (creaky in the way that a poorly assembled car might be. I think this is mostly down to the grip and what feels like plastic here and there). The Fuji made lens is very good optically and feels much more robust than the body (I'm using the 120 Macro).

Anyway, it would be wonderful to see a return to form for Hasselblad. At this point, the H series just feels so outdated and cumbersome that I think they really need something special or they will simply wither away.

Sep 10, 2012 at 01:45 PM

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p.1 #7 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

Even the S2 is made from plastic. I wonder what a company like Fuji could develop if with Hasselblad if the budget were high enough.

Sep 10, 2012 at 03:16 PM

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p.1 #8 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

If you give me a retro styled, mirrorless hasselblad with a 6x4.5 sensor, I'll die from happiness.

Sep 10, 2012 at 03:21 PM

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p.1 #9 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

I had no idea what the new stuff was like, my only experience is briefly with a 501CM. I assumed they'd kept the similar philosophy, but your descriptions sound pretty off putting. But, let's see... I wonder if this is related to the new Zeiss ILC lenses mentioned?

Eitherway, it's gonna be pretty big (or at least the lenses will be), so not a straight forward choice for many... But interesting. So let's see.

Sep 10, 2012 at 03:27 PM

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p.1 #10 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

ricardovaste wrote:
I had no idea what the new stuff was like, my only experience is briefly with a 501CM. I assumed they'd kept the similar philosophy, but your descriptions sound pretty off putting. But, let's see... I wonder if this is related to the new Zeiss ILC lenses mentioned?

Well... film cameras like the 500 series are like many other film cameras from that day, like bricks. Once you make a digital camera, you need to compensate for all the new internals, so the camera becomes plastic. Hasselblad partnered with Fuji to make the H series, and Fuji makes all the lenses too.

I am not sure if Zeiss is precluded to working on a project like this given their alliance with Sony.

Sep 10, 2012 at 03:34 PM

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p.1 #11 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

I get the point, but I've handled many newer digital cameras that are completely different to their film counterparts, but they don't 'creak'.

Sep 10, 2012 at 03:37 PM

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p.1 #12 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

corposant wrote:
ricardovaste wrote:
I had no idea what the new stuff was like, my only experience is briefly with a 501CM. I assumed they'd kept the similar philosophy, but your descriptions sound pretty off putting. But, let's see... I wonder if this is related to the new Zeiss ILC lenses mentioned?

Well... film cameras like the 500 series are like many other film cameras from that day, like bricks. Once you make a digital camera, you need to compensate for all the new internals, so the camera becomes plastic. Hasselblad partnered with Fuji to make the H series, and Fuji makes all the lenses too.

I am not sure if Zeiss is precluded to working on a project like this given their alliance with Sony.

Keep in mind the H series was developed initially as just a film camera so I don't think the design can be chalked up to being due to digital. Many who used Hasselblad thought it quite sacriligous at the time to abandon the square format in exchange for 645. The classic V/ 500 series goes back over 50 years! What an enduring concept.

Sep 10, 2012 at 03:46 PM

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p.1 #13 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

ricardovaste wrote:
I get the point, but I've handled many newer digital cameras that are completely different to their film counterparts, but they don't 'creak'.

Maybe it's because I am using the very heavy 120 Macro on the front. The creak is in the grip. Since part of the grip consists of the removable battery, the design sort of means that all the weight gets distributed in this one area - which is not one solid piece.

Sep 10, 2012 at 03:49 PM

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p.1 #14 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

ulrikft2 wrote:
If you give me a retro styled, mirrorless hasselblad with a 6x4.5 sensor, I'll die from happiness.

Me too

Sep 10, 2012 at 04:02 PM

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p.1 #15 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

edwardkaraa wrote:
ulrikft2 wrote:
If you give me a retro styled, mirrorless hasselblad with a 6x6 sensor, I'll die from happiness.

Me too

There, I fixed it for you!

Sep 10, 2012 at 04:09 PM

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p.1 #16 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

Tariq Gibran wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote:
ulrikft2 wrote:
If you give me a retro styled, mirrorless hasselblad with a 6x6 sensor, I'll die from happiness.

Me too

There, I fixed it for you!

Agreed. We've already got the 6x4.5 option (and smaller 6x6 option) in the CFV back series. They need the full format 6x6 option, although I'm sure the price will be more than I'm willing to consider.

Sep 10, 2012 at 04:16 PM

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p.1 #17 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

What I understand by mirrorless is more like a RF Mamiya 7 kind of camera. I would love a square format too, if that was feasible.

Sep 10, 2012 at 04:28 PM

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p.1 #18 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

edwardkaraa wrote:
What I understand by mirrorless is more like a RF Mamiya 7 kind of camera. I would love a square format too, if that was feasible.

Ah, gotcha. That would be amazing.

Sep 10, 2012 at 04:31 PM

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p.1 #19 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

edwardkaraa wrote:
To be honest I think Hasselblad has stopped being Hasselblad long time ago. Since they started introducing plastic bodies and lenses made in japan and china instead of Sweden and Germany.

True.
Its name only and the V. Hblad family sold all to Fuji years ago and no longer in thr biz.
The current models are not bad but they are more correctly "Fujiblads".

Sep 10, 2012 at 04:33 PM

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p.1 #20 · Mirrorless Hasselblad

douglasf13 wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote:
What I understand by mirrorless is more like a RF Mamiya 7 kind of camera. I would love a square format too, if that was feasible.

Ah, gotcha. That would be amazing.

Yes - but let it be like the Mamiya 6 I once owned!

EVF/OVF Hybrid (since Fuji will likely be heavily involved and building it) and interchangeable lenses. Think of it as an X-Pro1 on Steroids (or the Texas Leica updated for the digital era). Now that would be amazing...and probably quite expensive!

Sep 10, 2012 at 05:53 PM

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