Home · Register · Search · View Winners · Software · Hosting · Software · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username   Password

  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Sony Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3              179      
180
       181              192       193       end
  

Archive 2012 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)
  
 
fredmirandafan
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #1 · p.180 #1 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


It seems the lens hood (step-down ring design) for FE 35mm lens can be used on RX1 since they both share 49mm size filter ring? But knowing Sony, they'll probably design the mounting differently to prevent users from bypassing the $200 RX1 hood


Oct 20, 2013 at 06:46 PM
Tariq Gibran
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.180 #2 · p.180 #2 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


fredmirandafan wrote:
It seems the lens hood (step-down ring design) for FE 35mm lens can be used on RX1 since they both share 49mm size filter ring? But knowing Sony, they'll probably design the mounting differently to prevent users from bypassing the $200 RX1 hood


Because the FE 35 hood is designed for that specific lens (and because of it's unique design) , you would very likely get a little vignetting on the RX1 since it's a brighter lens (faster aperture, F2 vs F2.8) with a larger front element.



Oct 20, 2013 at 08:25 PM
sebboh
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #3 · p.180 #3 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Because the FE 35 hood is designed for that specific lens (and because of it's unique design) , you would very likely get a little vignetting on the RX1 since it's a brighter lens (faster aperture, F2 vs F2.8) with a larger front element.


doubtful, manufacturers usually give a lot of leeway in their hoods. the r1 lens is a fair bit wider than 35mm though. any idea what the actual focal length of the new lens is?




Oct 20, 2013 at 08:33 PM
millsart
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.180 #4 · p.180 #4 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Because the FE 35 hood is designed for that specific lens (and because of it's unique design) , you would very likely get a little vignetting on the RX1 since it's a brighter lens (faster aperture, F2 vs F2.8) with a larger front element.



Hard to say, but I think it very well could work since the RX1 seems to work well with a stop down ring as a hood, so its a similar design principle.




Oct 20, 2013 at 08:41 PM
Tariq Gibran
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.180 #5 · p.180 #5 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


I have my doubts about this hood working but perhaps I'm wrong. I have a similar hood on one of my Pentax lenses and it's designed very specifically not only for the focal length but for the small size of the lens (and, more importantly, the slow aperture). Looking at this FE 35 hood, I see potential problems. I believe that rectangular mask would cover some of the front element on an RX1.










Oct 20, 2013 at 08:50 PM
carstenw
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #6 · p.180 #6 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


The full image circle is not used, right, so it would depend how far down it would go...


Oct 20, 2013 at 10:31 PM
douglasf13
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #7 · p.180 #7 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


I was wondering about that hood, myself. The thing about the RX1 is, the front element doesn't appear to be as large as it looks, because there is a masked off portion (grey band in pic below) around the outside, although the lens also seems to be a bit wider than 35mm, so who knows?










Oct 21, 2013 at 01:39 AM
Tariq Gibran
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.180 #8 · p.180 #8 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


Imaging-Resource had this side by side with the RX1 and the A7r + FE 35 with hood which gives us an exact size of the hood in relation to the RX1 lens.







The hood does crop the front element top and bottom but that may not cause an issue. I'm curious to see someone test this hood out on an RX1.

Quick PS putting hood on RX1 (this actually has both hoods on the RX1):







Oct 21, 2013 at 03:06 AM
sebboh
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #9 · p.180 #9 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


i have to say that if it fits i think it'll work. i think i'm just going to turn out the center of on of my metal screw in lens caps to use as a hood for my rx1 though. that way i can get the exit diameter as small as possible while keeping the hood super slim and super strong.




Oct 21, 2013 at 03:31 AM
douglasf13
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #10 · p.180 #10 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Imaging-Resource had this side by side with the RX1 and the A7r + FE 35 with hood which gives us an exact size of the hood in relation to the RX1 lens.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/camera-reviews/sony/a7r/ZA7RVSRX1F-L.jpg

The hood does crop the front element top and bottom but that may not cause an issue. I'm curious to see someone test this hood out on an RX1.

Quick PS putting hood on RX1 (this actually has both hoods on the RX1):
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5540407/rx1hood.jpg


Tariq, do you see what I'm saying about how the entrance to the front element of the rx1 isn't as big as it looks, because of the matte portion just inside the front element?



Oct 21, 2013 at 06:30 AM
 

Search in Used Dept. 



sebboh
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #11 · p.180 #11 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


douglasf13 wrote:
Tariq, do you see what I'm saying about how the entrance to the front element of the rx1 isn't as big as it looks, because of the matte portion just inside the front element?


i think that is actually behind the second element, can't find the diagram to double check. i've always been curious about it's optical significance, but i'm not sure it negates the size of the front element functionally.




Oct 21, 2013 at 07:21 AM
twoeye
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #12 · p.180 #12 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


The hood of the FE35 has a bayonet outside of the filter thread so it will not fit on the RX1 filter thread:

The hood adds roughly 10mm to the overall length of the lens. It can be left attached to the lens in all situations including storage and when filters are fitted. (The filter ring is located inside the bayonet mounting for the lens hood.)



Oct 21, 2013 at 07:34 AM
sebboh
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #13 · p.180 #13 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


twoeye wrote:
The hood of the FE35 has a bayonet outside of the filter thread so it will not fit on the RX1 filter thread:


so does the rx1 hood though and since the filter thread is the same size it stands to reason that the bayonet could be the same size too.




Oct 21, 2013 at 07:41 AM
twoeye
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #14 · p.180 #14 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


sebboh wrote:
so does the rx1 hood though and since the filter thread is the same size it stands to reason that the bayonet could be the same size too.


OK, my bad. Having bought a used RX1 with third party hood I wasn´t aware of that.



Oct 21, 2013 at 07:58 AM
Jochenb
Online
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #15 · p.180 #15 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


It wasn't really planned, but I have the RRS grip on the way. Someone on a local forum was selling one very cheap, so let's try it out.


Oct 21, 2013 at 08:43 AM
Tariq Gibran
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.180 #16 · p.180 #16 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


douglasf13 wrote:
Tariq, do you see what I'm saying about how the entrance to the front element of the rx1 isn't as big as it looks, because of the matte portion just inside the front element?


I do see that but like Derek, I don't know if more than that matte portion of the front element is still not necessary. I don't think we will know for 100% sure until someone tests it. One thing which gives me doubt though that this FE hood will work without any vignetting is that if I use a step down ring with an empty 39mm filter on top, I get a little vignetting. Granted, this is a little further out from the lens but it also does not crop into that front element at all when viewed straight on.














Oct 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM
fredmirandafan
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #17 · p.180 #17 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


Thanks for all your insights on the hood. I guess we'll just to wait for someone to test one to be sure, that's if Sony actually sells it separately, fingers crossed..

On a separate note, the EVF that I ordered two months ago finally arrived on Friday, what a difference it made to my shooting?! Now I can actually do critical focus at f2 when it was impossible before on a tiny LCD screen.

But one problem I notice is the "jaggies" along diagonal and even straight lines. Occasionally smearing and color moire can be seen too. Before my EM1, I probably wouldn't have noticed these issues. But comparing it to the EM1, it's almost like night and day! EM1 has a smooth "natural" look but the Sony EVF has too many digital artifacts. Has anyone else using EM1 noticed this? I just want to make sure I didn't get a faulty one.



Oct 21, 2013 at 03:10 PM
carstenw
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.180 #18 · p.180 #18 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


Isn't the E-M1 EVF higher resolution?


Oct 21, 2013 at 03:25 PM
Tariq Gibran
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.180 #19 · p.180 #19 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


fredmirandafan wrote:
Thanks for all your insights on the hood. I guess we'll just to wait for someone to test one to be sure, that's if Sony actually sells it separately, fingers crossed..

On a separate note, the EVF that I ordered two months ago finally arrived on Friday, what a difference it made to my shooting?! Now I can actually do critical focus at f2 when it was impossible before on a tiny LCD screen.

But one problem I notice is the "jaggies" along diagonal and even straight lines. Occasionally smearing and color moire can be seen too. Before my EM1, I
...Show more

I have not used the EM1 but I have noticed these issues with the Sony EVF. Supposedly, the A7r EVF is a big improvement(and similar or closer at least to the EM1) - which is why I hope Sony updates the RX1 EVF.



Oct 21, 2013 at 03:27 PM
Tariq Gibran
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.180 #20 · p.180 #20 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (fixed lens)


carstenw wrote:
Isn't the E-M1 EVF higher resolution?


Both have the same resolution - 2359K/2360K dot...ok, one dot off!.



Oct 21, 2013 at 03:32 PM
1       2       3              179      
180
       181              192       193       end




FM Forums | Sony Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3              179      
180
       181              192       193       end
    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

Username   Password    Reset password