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David-D Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #1 · Ellie It's the beginning of Spring here in Australia. We took these last weekend We originally only intend to do a shoot with a horse but as I was driving to the location, I saw these lovely (cherry blossom?) and I couldn't resist but to tell Ellie at the end of our shoot to visit this place and took a few photos with the cherry trees. Below are a few images from this session: 1 2 3 4 5 More images from this shoot can be viewed at: http://www.thatstheshot.com.au/blog/2012/9/3/ellie-folio-shoot-melbourne-photographer.html As usual, all comments are welcome and thanks for looking Sep 07, 2012 at 01:23 AM

billk55 Online • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #2 · Ellie Very nice, but I think 4 is a miss. Those blossoms on the left should not have been sharpened. If anything, they should have been blurred out. The whole image just seems fake at that point. Sep 07, 2012 at 03:01 AM

David-D Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #3 · Ellie billk55 wrote: Very nice, but I think 4 is a miss. Those blossoms on the left should not have been sharpened. If anything, they should have been blurred out. The whole image just seems fake at that point. Fair point but I have not sharpened the image or do any sharpening in any particular patch on the image, it is just the angle to the row of trees I've taken the shot I think. Is this one better (taken straight front on to the 2 rows of tree instead of from an angle on the side)? 6 Sep 07, 2012 at 03:45 AM

Andre Labonte Offline • • • • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #4 · Ellie Nice series. The 2nd and last one are absolutely stunning. The 4th one would be as well but the tilt kills it for me. Sep 07, 2012 at 04:32 AM

no_surrender Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #5 · Ellie Loving 2! Sep 07, 2012 at 12:09 PM

deinfaces Online • • • Upload & Sell: On p.1 #6 · Ellie I love #1, but I am always a sucker for backlighting. Partly because I haven't learned to use it effectively. Bob Sep 07, 2012 at 12:51 PM

GoodEgg Offline • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #7 · Ellie Different strokes... I like the creative use of shallow depth of field. Interesting set, many different styles. Kudos. Sep 07, 2012 at 05:09 PM

M I K E Offline • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #8 · Ellie Great stuff, not so keen on No5 but the others are superb. Sep 07, 2012 at 05:18 PM

henrynvirginia Offline • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #9 · Ellie I like all of these with the exception of #2. There is too much tension in that image.The subject is looking down and holding the horse tightly. The horse seems to be a bit spooked by the photographer, judging by what I call the "big eye". The horse has also turned his head and body away from the camera which gives him an awkward posture. The opposite of the calm relaxed scene in #1. Sep 08, 2012 at 12:01 AM

jfinite Offline • • • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #10 · Ellie I love 4 and 6, well shot! Sep 08, 2012 at 01:33 PM

Dennis M 1064 Offline • • Upload & Sell: On p.1 #11 · Ellie I like them as well. If you work with horses in the future, (or for others that choose to work with them) have your model give at least 3 feet of lead rope to the horse. Horses are the worlds premier prey animal. When you hold them on a short lead, or by the hasp (snap, shackle) of the lead rope, you are too much in their space, and they feel like you are leading them to dinner. . .and they are the dinner. Almost all horses will relax and lead just fine lwith a few feet of lead, and if you have a horse that needs to have a tight lead, keep them well away from your model. Like in their own paddock. A horses number one defense mechanism is to run. When you bind them up, you are threatening their life. They tend to raise their energy, spook easy, get wide eyed (as was pointed out) and jerk their heads against the rope. Their gait becomes tense, and they carry their head high. (too high for a nice photo). This looks like a good horse, so, he will take his cue from you and the model. If using fill flash/strobes auto winders, buzzing things and what not, you can quickly desensitize the horse to them, with the help of the owner before involving your model. It is simply a matter or repetition, being non reactive yourself, and the horse quickly realizes that they aren't about to get eaten. They will learn not to waste energy, panicking or being stressed about it. They'll save that energy for something else to panic over. Lastly, never think that a horse won't spook. And when they do, they will likely spook in the direction of the person nearest them. Murphy's law. Insurance is a good idea. Great photography by the way. Lovely model. Cheers, Dennis (Horse owner, natural hoof trimmer, wannabe pro photographer) Sep 08, 2012 at 02:01 PM

David-D Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #12 · Ellie Dennis M 1064 wrote: I like them as well. If you work with horses in the future, (or for others that choose to work with them) have your model give at least 3 feet of lead rope to the horse. Horses are the worlds premier prey animal. When you hold them on a short lead, or by the hasp (snap, shackle) of the lead rope, you are too much in their space, and they feel like you are leading them to dinner. . .and they are the dinner. Almost all horses will relax and lead just fine lwith a few feet of lead, and if you have a horse that needs to have a tight lead, keep them well away from your model. Like in their own paddock. A horses number one defense mechanism is to run. When you bind them up, you are threatening their life. They tend to raise their energy, spook easy, get wide eyed (as was pointed out) and jerk their heads against the rope. Their gait becomes tense, and they carry their head high. (too high for a nice photo). This looks like a good horse, so, he will take his cue from you and the model. If using fill flash/strobes auto winders, buzzing things and what not, you can quickly desensitize the horse to them, with the help of the owner before involving your model. It is simply a matter or repetition, being non reactive yourself, and the horse quickly realizes that they aren't about to get eaten. They will learn not to waste energy, panicking or being stressed about it. They'll save that energy for something else to panic over. Lastly, never think that a horse won't spook. And when they do, they will likely spook in the direction of the person nearest them. Murphy's law. Insurance is a good idea. Great photography by the way. Lovely model. Cheers, Dennis (Horse owner, natural hoof trimmer, wannabe pro photographer) Hi Dennis, Thank you so much for the tips. You are correct, it's the first time I photographed a horse. The horse belong to a model's friend but he was very gentle so we were lucky in a sense. I didn't use flash at all fear for the reason you have mentioned above (didn't want to upset the horse). I tried very hard to get some sort of connection/emotion between the horse and the model but feel it was not that easy. Although the model have ridden horses before, it was hard to get any feel (at least not showed on my images) between the two, maybe because she was not the horse owner. Anyway, it was a big learning curve for me and I did enjoy the experience. Thanks for your tips as I may have another chance of photographying another horse in the near future : ) Sep 08, 2012 at 02:17 PM

Dennis M 1064 Offline • • Upload & Sell: On p.1 #13 · Ellie Glad I could finally help a little. I'm pretty inept as it turns out on digital photography, but I know horses. I can also talk about them ad nauseum. I will eventually do a photographic study of Wild Mustangs, my greatest passion. So, studying the behavior of the horse, as well as its history (since the dawn horse), will hopefully allow me an easier access to them in their natural habitat. You did a nice job of capturing emotion in the second photo, but that assumes you are an average horse person at best, and don't notice the horses ears are pointing away from the model. He is being nice, but saying, I'm checking out my exit, should you make me uncomfortable. So, she is more into it than the horse. I would recommend a nice halter (I only use rope halters, but if it has to be formal and you have a good horse, a handsome leather halter is nice), as well as a nice, good quality lead rope. This horse has a bit and bridle. We know she didn't ride him, wearing that lovely dress. Also, the horse knows that the bit and bridle means we are going to be going for a ride, so the horse can't quite settle down and relax. These are confusing signals. Like, loading your sled dogs Chatmac in the truck, and then just taking him out for a walk down the road. He's going to be thinking about his sled in the truck, not enjoying the walk. As far as the relationship thing with the model and horse, they need some time to get to know each other. She should show up early, and in some barn cloths. She can brush hi, rub him, and get him to see she is to be trusted, and liked. Treats work with dogs, but can create a situation with horses. They can become pushy, nippy and a bit of a handful. I would avoid it. I know a lot of "horse people" that can drive a horse nuts in a heartbeat. Never depend on the word of the model that they are 'good' with horses. Make sure the horse owner or wrangler keeps an eye on things, and doesn't worry too much about offending anyone, should they feel the need to step in and correct a developing issue or behavior pattern. I was just trampled by my own draft horse a few weeks ago when I was trimming her feet. The gelding warmblood decided to turn and bite her because she pinned her ears at him. Totally my fault. She is the alpha, but that didn't actually stop him from trying his luck. I should have kept him away. Fortunately, she realized I was on the ground under her, and froze in her tracks to keep from really injuring me. She ignored the last advance from the gelding, to protect me. Horses are incredibly smart, but they will panic first, think second. Keep it fun and very relaxed. Sep 08, 2012 at 03:20 PM

David-D Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #14 · Ellie Thanks for the above info, yeah you are right about the bit and bridle but in this case we didn't have much choice, we only have limited time plus the horse owner turn up a bit late with the horse, the model tried to have much settling time with the horse as much as possible, trying to rub him, pad him but we did't offer any treat to the horse. I think you were right about the horse was expecting going for a ride/run but it didn't happen. The horse was there ridding another horse the whole time to keep an eye on things. Anyway, as you can see, our knowledge of horse are so shallow, I guess every field has it's own knowldege , it was a good experience for us. Thanks again and hopefully I can remember your tips if I ever have a chance to photograph another horse : ) Cheers! Sep 08, 2012 at 09:34 PM

Dennis M 1064 Offline • • Upload & Sell: On p.1 #15 · Ellie I would absolutely not give up on this model, and shot. I think there is a lot of potential there. She is truly lovely, and is comfortable with horses. The bond, once developed between human and horse is extraordinary. In the horse world, this has a lot of potential. Keep working on it. Sep 09, 2012 at 12:54 AM

David-D Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #16 · Ellie deinfaces wrote: I love #1, but I am always a sucker for backlighting. Partly because I haven't learned to use it effectively. Bob Thanks Bob. Sep 10, 2012 at 09:31 PM

FNINE Offline • Upload & Sell: On p.1 #17 · Ellie Just amazing portrait photography Sep 11, 2012 at 05:50 AM

pedpole Offline • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #18 · Ellie #2 is my favorite!! Sep 12, 2012 at 02:22 AM

David-D Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #19 · Ellie FNINE wrote: Just amazing portrait photography Thank you. Sep 13, 2012 at 01:13 AM

David-D Offline • • • Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #20 · Ellie henrynvirginia wrote: I like all of these with the exception of #2. There is too much tension in that image.The subject is looking down and holding the horse tightly. The horse seems to be a bit spooked by the photographer, judging by what I call the "big eye". The horse has also turned his head and body away from the camera which gives him an awkward posture. The opposite of the calm relaxed scene in #1. Just had a bit of time and did a tiny bit of rework on #2 2B Sep 18, 2012 at 10:11 AM

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