chinhphan .... nice shooting. good solids stuff.
some interesting compositions.
couple of thoughts:
#2 ... looks like the feet are cut off. not everybody style but pretty cool. couple seem a tad dark.
#4 Love the colors and mood of the image. same with the tight cropping on the feet by a tad. i would have the girl be a little more active...maybe reaching for him... something.
5-11 are nice. good mixture.
#13 ...slightly cut off the top of his head.
14-16 nice
#17 watch the clutter - green hose behind him.... otherwise nice.
#19 An image where everything come together - hot couple-great light-sweet surroundings ... yet feel cold - like the couple where in a little ...well lets say there is no connection.
next time have her start to turn around to him.
@20 is nice but i would crop from the top down tho there waste.
#21 ... just not liking her arm up. just kills the mood.
ChinhPhan wrote:
These pictures aren't perfect by any means, but I just got a text from the bride-to-be stating they were very unhappy with the pictures.
This is always a fear when doing this type of work, but I'm shaken and pretty disappointed that I wasn't able to give the client what they were looking for. <sigh>
What are they unhappy with? I think overall it's a nice set. My only crit is their expressions are a bit odd in some, they seem stiff/uncomfortable in a few.
lilyphoto wrote:
What are they unhappy with? I think overall it's a nice set. My only crit is their expressions are a bit odd in some, they seem stiff/uncomfortable in a few.
Exactly that - they didn't think I posed them well enough - not enough flattering poses. I suppose the fact that this was a 6am shoot, and none of us had slept more than a couple hours didn't help. But overall, I suppose I should pay more attention to posing.
ChinhPhan wrote:
overall, I suppose I should pay more attention to posing.
I think you should do the opposite with people who couldn't pose if their life depended on it (particularly him). Just get them to have some fun.
12monkeys wrote:
I think you should do the opposite with people who couldn't pose if their life depended on it (particularly him). Just get them to have some fun.
I don't know, I'm a translator. Stick them in field and tell them to tickle each other? It's no good them looking at a portfolio and saying we want this, this and this if they're just not suited to it.
I have had (and still do sometimes) trouble posing people in the past. What I do now is set them into a position and then tell them to interact. I tell them to feel free to look at eachother, smile, laugh, kiss..
If I want them to look directly at me I tell them to, but the majority of my photos aren't of the subjects looking straight into the camera.
It helps to laugh along with them. Tell them how great they look, etc. This helps people loosen up.
I am quite surprised with the bride's comments. But I think there's something here - you obviously understand light, composition, and processing.. so posing would be something to improve. I did notice that out of 26 images you posted, 15 of them have the bride looking at the camera... which IMHO is too many.
12monkeys wrote:
I don't know, I'm a translator. Stick them in field and tell them to tickle each other? It's no good them looking at a portfolio and saying we want this, this and this if they're just not suited to it.
Chinh, You made the implication in a previous thread that there is an FM processing style prevalent in the work seen in the forum. Perhaps you also need to consider that there may be a similar phenomenon with posing. And trying to mimic those poses for no other reason than that's what you think good photos are made of would be falling into the same trap. I really agree with what 12monkeys is saying here. Sure, the photographers here dig this set (including myself), but at the same time they fell well short of your client's expectations.
lilyphoto wrote:
I have had (and still do sometimes) trouble posing people in the past. What I do now is set them into a position and then tell them to interact. I tell them to feel free to look at eachother, smile, laugh, kiss..
If I want them to look directly at me I tell them to, but the majority of my photos aren't of the subjects looking straight into the camera.
It helps to laugh along with them. Tell them how great they look, etc. This helps people loosen up.
exactly this...
12monkeys also hit on some valid points regarding posing (or lack of posing)
Some of these appear to be a bit dark. Iknow you're working on your processing so that could just be a stylistic choice. My favorites images are the ones where they aren't looking at the camera.
lilyphoto wrote:
I have had (and still do sometimes) trouble posing people in the past. What I do now is set them into a position and then tell them to interact. I tell them to feel free to look at eachother, smile, laugh, kiss..
If I want them to look directly at me I tell them to, but the majority of my photos aren't of the subjects looking straight into the camera.
It helps to laugh along with them. Tell them how great they look, etc. This helps people loosen up.
great set..the post process is totally working...
-that tree branch in #20 is very distracting for me...in fact, i think you should rotate that pic 180 degrees...it would be creative and not as distracting.
-you can prob do w/o #19
-i'd re-edit #1...looks like you went overboard with the recovery slider
this is just knit-picking...they are going to love it and I really enjoyed this set...great work man!
