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p.1 #1 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

I just received my Nikon D800 with 85 1.4 G lens and did some test shots at aperture of 1.4 to see how it compares to my M9 with Summilux 50 1.4 asph wide open.
What I see so far is kind of disappointing towards D800 & 85 1.4G
I hoped to use D800 for high ISO shots where my M9 is not very good at.

So , what do you guys think? Does it look normal?

Nikon d800 & 85 1.4G at 1.4 100% crop

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Leica M9 & summilux 50 1.4 asph at 1.4 100% crop

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both images have been processed in CS6 (default sharpness amount 25 radius 1 in ACR)

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I tried to adjust focus for 85 1.4G on D800 but did not see much difference

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Jul 28, 2012 at 09:34 PM

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p.1 #2 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

what ISO did you use for each of the cameras?

Jul 28, 2012 at 09:40 PM

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p.1 #3 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

M9 shutter 1/125 ISO 320
D800 shutter 1/200 ISO 720

Jul 28, 2012 at 09:44 PM

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p.1 #4 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

d800 & 85 1.4 G at 1.4

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Jul 28, 2012 at 09:56 PM

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p.1 #5 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

The shot isn't too good. Have you tested this combo at various f/stops and multiple subjects? My favorite combo is the 800E and 85G. I'm blown away by its sharpness beyond 100% crops.

IMO, you should shoot them both at the same ISO, 320 in this case, and put the shutter speed on auto.

Jul 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

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p.1 #6 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

does not look good to me either. Will try some different settings, but honestly, I expected better sharpness at 1.4
Unfortunately I don't have any other lenses to to see if it's D800 or 85 1.4

James R wrote:
The shot isn't too good. Have you tested this combo at various f/stops and multiple subjects? My favorite combo is the 800E and 85G. I'm blown away by its sharpness beyond 100% crops.

IMO, you should shoot them both at the same ISO, 320 in this case, and put the shutter speed on auto.

Jul 28, 2012 at 11:13 PM

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p.1 #7 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

my 85 1.8G is dead sharp wide open. I had never had a sharper combo. There was no need to do focus fine tune.

I've never touched the 1.4G though.

Ming Thein (google his blog with D800 tag) reported that the 1.8G paired much better than the 1.4G, even though one would expect the opposite.

Hope this helps somehow

Jul 29, 2012 at 01:35 AM

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p.1 #8 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

Thanks Guari! I'll give it a shot.
I can confirm focus inconsistency of 85G(could be a bad copy though)
Took 10 shots today having d800 on tripod refocusing 85G before taking picture and the result varies from shot to shot. 100% crop is unusable . I guess M9 spoiled me a little

The shot on the left was the sharpest out of 10 with D800 & 85G (M9 on the right just for comparison)

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Jul 29, 2012 at 02:05 AM

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p.1 #9 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

My D800 and 85 f/1.4G combo is sharper than that.

Jul 29, 2012 at 05:57 AM

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p.1 #10 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

YOu have a bad NIkon 85 f1.4G copy. Send it in for re-calibration to NIkon.

Jul 29, 2012 at 08:14 AM

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p.1 #11 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

thanks for your help guys, I will send the lens back for replacement.

Jul 29, 2012 at 01:24 PM

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p.1 #12 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

Looks worse than my D3200 and 50 combo TBH.

Jul 29, 2012 at 02:02 PM

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p.1 #13 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

Have you tried focusing with live view 100%, contrast detect? And, or manual focusing with live view?

Jul 29, 2012 at 02:34 PM

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p.1 #14 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

i've seen reports elsewhere that the 85 1.4 does not shine on the D800, but the 85 1.8 is great.

Jul 29, 2012 at 03:24 PM

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p.1 #15 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

1) 50 have deeper DOF then 85, especially at such close distance.
2) 85G is not optimized for wide open sharpness. it is usable, but priorities are somewhere else
3) when testing sharpness, shoot at base ISO and not low res OFFSET print as test target
4) all said and done, my 85D is sharper then the shots above (user error? maybe. bad lens copy? most probably) and 85G was sharper wide open then 85D (though i wont bother)

Jul 29, 2012 at 04:47 PM

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p.1 #16 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

the 85G has been sent back to the dealer. will try 85 G 1.8 or 85G 1.4 (another copy)
Thanks for you help guys!

Jul 29, 2012 at 05:32 PM

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p.1 #17 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

good luck! it is awesome combination

Jul 29, 2012 at 08:43 PM

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p.1 #18 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

rick_reno wrote:
i've seen reports elsewhere that the 85 1.4 does not shine on the D800, but the 85 1.8 is great.

dont believe those reports, its probably Nikon's highest resolving lens ever and is stunning on the D800

Jul 30, 2012 at 11:04 AM

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p.1 #19 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

at about the same distance and 2.8-5.6 is 105 micro sharper, but 85G is definitely sharp enough to enjoy the megapixels.

Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM

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p.1 #20 · D800 & 85 1.4 G info needed

colincarter46 wrote:
rick_reno wrote:
i've seen reports elsewhere that the 85 1.4 does not shine on the D800, but the 85 1.8 is great.

dont believe those reports, its probably Nikon's highest resolving lens ever and is stunning on the D800

Yeah, that and the 105 micro VR score the highest on DXO (of the non super teles). I don't have the 85G, thought I do have the 105. It should be able to resolve much higher than this. I wouldn't expect miracles of any lens at 1.4 though.
Realistic expectations and all.

Jul 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM

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