mawz wrote:
And the Sony 16 was also a kit lens. A wide or wide normal pancake is de rigeur for a mirrorless system, every current one has at least one. And a 22/2 is a heck of a lot better choice than the 16 Sony went with.
Or the Oly 17mm, which seems to be forgotten now that the M4/3s lens line has had time to mature.
freaklikeme wrote:
Or the Oly 17mm, which seems to be forgotten now that the M4/3s lens line has had time to mature.
The Oly 17 is forgotten because it's a mediocre lens for only a little less money than the faster and better Panasonic 20/1.7. Having owned the 17, the only thing's I'll say in its favour are it's small, reasonably well built and superior to the 4/3rds 25/2.8 (which is a complete dog).
Looks like the ring on the shutter is just to select full auto, still photos, or video. Definitely screams consumer oriented to me, we'll have to wait and see what the future holds.
A nice thing is that the mount seems to have room for a substantially larger sensor; at least 24x36 mm. The "EF-M" designation also speaks about some sort of longevity and possibly backwards compatibility (with adapter). So, this might be a good start for Canon entering the mirrorless market after all.
Personally I don't understand why they chose the 3:2 aspect ratio for a new format. There is really no reason to stick to a film based standard anymore. Medium format cameras have 4:3 aspect ratio for a good reason and I hate to see that no one dares to make a sensor size inbetween MF and MFT that isn't 3:2.
bobbytan wrote:
I was expecting a crippled mirrorless ILC from Canon ... but they delivered a retard.
Hehe nice one. Call me stupid but I actually had some hope for something "serious". Well after things Canon does lately, maybe Im really too optimistic. I will be suprised if Canon will stay alive in lets say next 10 years. They work on their doom really hard.
Btw. its most like 18 mpix APS-C same as in 650D (or many other with same sensor.. which unless someone has excellent skills isnt exactly great).
michael49 wrote:
I just picked up the Sigma 30 f/2.8 and thus far its one of the sharpest (corner to corner) lenses I've used on a NEX and its incredibly small.
It's not very small unless compared to the Sony non-pancakes. It's twice as large or larger than the mirrorless pancake lenses.
Makten wrote:
A nice thing is that the mount seems to have room for a substantially larger sensor; at least 24x36 mm. The "EF-M" designation also speaks about some sort of longevity and possibly backwards compatibility (with adapter). So, this might be a good start for Canon entering the mirrorless market after all.
Personally I don't understand why they chose the 3:2 aspect ratio for a new format. There is really no reason to stick to a film based standard anymore. Medium format cameras have 4:3 aspect ratio for a good reason and I hate to see that no one dares to make a sensor size inbetween MF and MFT that isn't 3:2....Show more →
Note that 4:3 in MF came about as it was half-frame 6x9 and therefore got twice as many shots on a roll.
mawz wrote:
The Oly 17 is forgotten because it's a mediocre lens for only a little less money than the faster and better Panasonic 20/1.7. Having owned the 17, the only thing's I'll say in its favour are it's small, reasonably well built and superior to the 4/3rds 25/2.8 (which is a complete dog).
Right, that was my point. The 22/2 is a much better choice than the 17 Oly launched with. Sorry, I didn't make that very clear in my original post.
