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Archive 2012 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question
  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


So, if I get an ST-E3 and 600 EX, I know I can trigger the 600 via radio frequency from the St-E3, but can the 600 still trigger a 580EXII via optical? Or, does the ST-E3 become the master and 600 the slave, thus incapable of triggering the 580? In other words, do I have to replace BOTH of my 580's with 600's in order to have a two flashes off camera set-up?

Sorry if a dumb question, but I'm a flash novice trying to make the best of what I can get. Currently using 580 Ex II and 580 EX with Radio Popper JrX system which works, but manual only.

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Jo



Jun 26, 2012 at 06:28 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


With the ST-E3 as master you can't fire the 580ex because the ST-E3 has no optical output.

But if you were to use the 600EX connected to the hot shoe as Master it can be set to trigger a 580EX slave optically, but then you lose the main advantage of owning the 600EX radio control.

So yes, to get the most out of the 600EX radio control you'd need go all in with the ST-E3 and two 600EX if you want both flashes off camera. You could eliminate the expense of the ST-E3 by using a 600EX as master in the hot shoe or connect to it via a TTL extension cord.



Jun 26, 2012 at 08:32 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


Jo Dilbeck wrote:
So, if I get an ST-E3 and 600 EX, I know I can trigger the 600 via radio frequency from the St-E3, but can the 600 still trigger a 580EXII via optical? Or, does the ST-E3 become the master and 600 the slave, thus incapable of triggering the 580? In other words, do I have to replace BOTH of my 580's with 600's in order to have a two flashes off camera set-up?

Sorry if a dumb question, but I'm a flash novice trying to make the best of what I can get. Currently using 580 Ex II and 580
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Unfortunately you are looking at a two flash replacement at some point if you want to go to ETTL, HSS, or ratio via canon Radio control. I am at the same cross roads with my 3 flash setup and having a lot of trouble justifying a $2000+ expense for this hobby. So for now I am hanging tight with my 580 EX II, 2-430 EX II, and PW TT1, TT5s, and Ac3.

Canon needs to come out with a 450 EX/RT at around $375 each or have a ST-E3 II with IR support.






Jun 29, 2012 at 05:58 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


I'd LOVE an ST-E3 II with IR support! I have absolutely no need to replace my 3 flash set-up at this time, much better uses for my money.

Jo



Jun 29, 2012 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


I just got two 600's and they are well worth the price....no hassle wireless trigger and
total flash control from your master (on camera flash). Works great on my Mark 2 and
even allows high speed sync at ridiculous shutter speeds (1/2000sec.



Jul 01, 2012 at 01:10 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


echelonphoto wrote:
I just got two 600's and they are well worth the price....no hassle wireless trigger and
total flash control from your master (on camera flash). Works great on my Mark 2 and
even allows high speed sync at ridiculous shutter speeds (1/2000sec.


+1



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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


echelonphoto wrote:
I just got two 600's and they are well worth the price....no hassle wireless trigger and
total flash control from your master (on camera flash). Works great on my Mark 2 and
even allows high speed sync at ridiculous shutter speeds (1/2000sec.



+1

Now just saving up to get the ST-3 but as my first set of off camera flash. I love it.




Jul 09, 2012 at 02:16 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


Looks like the ST-ET3 does not do focus assist like the ST-E2, so I'll be keeping that alongside the 600E EX & ST-E3.


Jan 18, 2013 at 05:10 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


fosofos wrote:
Looks like the ST-ET3 does not do focus assist like the ST-E2, so I'll be keeping that alongside the 600E EX & ST-E3.


The ST-E2 was introduced way back with the 420EX which is also ETTL control only: it can fire but not set power remotely on manual flash.

I suspect the ST-E2 stayed in the Canon line-up as long as it did without any upgrade because many photographers bought them primarily as a near-IR AF assist aid when shooting ambient in low light.



Jan 18, 2013 at 07:21 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


Yes, you're right. Shooting with dim ambient light with the ST-E2 makes AF possible. I plan to get two 600EX's ad use them along with a 500EX to optically fire everything which should be fine for indoor work at close quarters or even some macro work. The high-speed sync may help with birds-in-flight when shooting with the 400mm f/5.6L on a Pro body. This new system holds much promise.


Jan 19, 2013 at 05:02 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 600 EX, ST-E3 and 580EXII Question


Another reason to skip the sts and get a real flash.


Jan 23, 2013 at 03:26 AM





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