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BrianJarvis
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


I recently made the jump from DX (D80) to FX (D800) and am in need a of a new wide lens. I currently have the Tokina 12-24 that I LOVE but alas it has to go since it's a no go on my D800. My question is, what would be a good FX equivalent lens? I purposely left out the Nikon 2.8 because I don't see the need for fast glass like that for landscape use expecially considering the premium Nikon puts on it. I can't justify the extra $800-$1000 over the Tokina 2.8. I want good quality glass that will produce sharp images for my D800

--Brian
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May 13, 2012 at 05:59 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Hey Brian,

I use the 16-35mm Nikon. I really like it. Very sharp. A bit of vignetting in the corners, but other than that, very good.

Jim



May 13, 2012 at 06:02 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Sorry for the glitchy text in the poll, I guess FM doesn't like some special characters. The "≈" text was the "approximate" character


May 13, 2012 at 06:08 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


if filters are not an issue, go for the tokina 16-28mm otherwise nikon 16-35 vr.


May 13, 2012 at 07:28 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


16-35 is fine and you dont need to add vignette in post


May 13, 2012 at 07:36 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


I'd be willing to bet you'd enjoy the 16-28 Tokina if you enjoyed the 12-24.


May 13, 2012 at 08:19 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


You paid up for the most resolution of any DSLR for a reason. So why not check out some resolution test results regardless of maximum F stop? Most lenses do better stopped down 1 or 2 stops from mamium. So your F 2.8 14-24 Nikkor will have its best resolution at F 4.0 or maybe F 5.6 because after that you are into diffraction limitations as soon as F 8.0.


May 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


I've yet to see Tokina lenses tested on a D800 so 'caveat emptor'. The 16-35, on the other hand, has been and did remarkably well (check out lensrentals.com entry on D800 lenses). Spending money on consumer-grade glass like the 18-35 for use on a D800 is, quite frankly, senseless.


May 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Reconsider the 14-24. Sure, you don't need the speed, but lenses perform best stopped down a bit, and the 14-24 is super, super sharp stopped down. It's a lot more $$$ than the 16-35, but it's also a lot more lens.

Stay the heck away from the 18-35. It was Nikon's first attempt at a consumer superwide zoom, and it is pretty terrible. Check out the Photozone review of it.



May 13, 2012 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


14-24 is the way to go. I never regret getting that lens.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Testing on a D3x, you should have what you need from these tests:

Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8
http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/594-tokina162828ff

Nikon 16-35mm f/4 VR
http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/492-nikkor_afs_1635_4_ff

Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8
http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/447-nikkor_afs_1424_28_ff

Nikon 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5
http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/670-nikkorafd18353545ff



May 13, 2012 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


I opted for the newly released Tokina 17-35/4 FX. But hey, I'm just shooting lowly D700's.... Lol!

I too had several copies of Tokina's 12-24/4 DX, and 11-16/2.8 DX lenses over the years while shooting Canon, Sony and Nikon croppers. Great glass, at a great price. No complaints at all with these gems.

As much as I'd love to give the Nikkor 16-35/4 VR a spot in the TT APSv2, the Tokina took it's spot and thus far I feel I made the right choice.

Edit: and BTW, both Tokina's have rebates going on right now, and they're readily available from just about everyone. Just another nicety for Tokina....



May 13, 2012 at 03:29 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


I think you would be happy with the 16-35 VR, but... I realize that you have stated you don't need it, but I also have to plug the 14-24 here. Yes, it's heavy and expensive and doesn't take filters(well it doesn't take reasonably priced filters:cool. It's just a spectacular lens. It matches or betters prime performance throughout it's range. It should really deliver on the D800.


May 13, 2012 at 03:33 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Why not the 17-35? Not as expensive as the 14-24mm but still has the speed of 2.8 if need be. And plus, the 14-24mm is a rather narrow range.


May 14, 2012 at 02:32 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


There is nothing wrong with the 17-35 at all other than I don't see the need to spend $2,000 for a wide lens when, unless you are a pixel peeper, you can't tell the difference between that and a $1,000 wide lens.

--Brian
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May 14, 2012 at 03:05 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Check this out: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/d800-lens-selection

scroll down to "Nikon Zooms" ---> Nikon 16-35mm f/4 VR (1136/952@f/5.6)

Nikon 17-35 f/2.8 (1040 /863 @ f/5.6)
Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8 ED (1181 / 831 @ f/5.6 note: the corners are rather soft)

The 16-35mm beat the 17-35 at center and almost matched the 14-24mm also at center but beat them both closer to the edges!

Keep in mind I think they test at a focus distance of 10-20ft. At infinity results might be different.

Edited on May 14, 2012 at 04:58 AM · View previous versions



May 14, 2012 at 04:57 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Invest in good glass FIRST!!!!

Why have a camera like the D800 only to put cheep glass on it?

That said, 17-35



May 14, 2012 at 04:58 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Sneakyracer wrote:
Check this out: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/d800-lens-selection

scroll down to "Nikon Zooms" ---> Nikon 16-35mm f/4 VR (1136/952@f/5.6)

Nikon 17-35 f/2.8 (1040 /863 @ f/5.6)
Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8 ED (1181 / 831 @ f/5.6 note: the corners are rather soft)

The 16-35mm beat the 17-35 at center and almost matched the 14-24mm also at center but beat them both closer to the edges!

Keep in mind I think they test at a focus distance of 10-20ft. At infinity results might be different.

My experience is exactly the opposite: the 14-24 is way superior to the other designs, and the difference is huge. Corners and edges are very good to excellent even fully open, and improving when closing down, while the corners never really get very good on the others.

Guy



May 14, 2012 at 05:28 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Wide Angle FX Help needed


Robb Mann wrote:
Reconsider the 14-24. Sure, you don't need the speed, but lenses perform best stopped down a bit, and the 14-24 is super, super sharp stopped down. It's a lot more $$$ than the 16-35, but it's also a lot more lens.

Stay the heck away from the 18-35. It was Nikon's first attempt at a consumer superwide zoom, and it is pretty terrible. Check out the Photozone review of it.


+1 I've had all three and on the D800 the 14-24 is simply amazing.



May 14, 2012 at 01:25 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Wide Angle FX Help needed








Good example of what the 14-24 is capable off when opened up a bit...
D800 + 14-24@14mm+f11 - 4 sec exposure at ISO100. Tripod, cable release.

Larger file here - "http://robbmann-photography.smugmug.com/Other/LensTest/i-d3tm3FK/0/X3/Generator-1-of-1-X3.jpg"



May 14, 2012 at 01:36 PM





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