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Archive 2012 · US retailer stops shipping Canon to Canada
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I found this on PhotoPrice.ca's Facebook wall and it's also in Twitter:

PhotoPrice.ca says:
Today, one US store (J&R) stopped shipping Canon products to Canada, citing "manufacturer restrictions". Is this a sign of more unfortunate things to come?

Henry Posner
henryp@bhphoto.com
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Apr 03, 2012 at 08:19 PM
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Thanks for the heads-up, Henry.

Before I joined CPS Canada, I would really not like to hear this. About half of the new Canon gear I bought was priced sufficiently lower in the US (often at your place) to make an international purchase well worth the slightly greater effort.

As a member of CPS Canada, it's currently not a problem, as the CPS Canada price is invariably below the best prices in the US (after yadda, yadda...). OTOH, if the CPS Canada price discount disappears, then we could all be in a pickle. As it is, most of us might be in a pickle.

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Apr 03, 2012 at 09:07 PM
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I wonder if the manufacturer is aware of NAFTA?


Apr 03, 2012 at 09:07 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
I wonder if the manufacturer is aware of NAFTA?

You're funny. Let me see... EU prices are higher than US. I wonder if the manufacturer is aware of WTO. Or NATO.

PS. Sorry. I could not help it.



Apr 03, 2012 at 09:13 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
I wonder if the manufacturer is aware of NAFTA?


Only if you are exporting/importing lumber or oil.

Same stupid reasons why Canadians have to pay $$$ for "Canadian specific" cars.



Apr 03, 2012 at 09:14 PM
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ciprian.trofin wrote:
You're funny. Let me see... EU prices are higher than US. I wonder if the manufacturer is aware of WTO. Or NATO.

PS. Sorry. I could not help it.


And what has that got to do with trade between Canada and the United States



Apr 03, 2012 at 09:31 PM
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I was told a while ago by KEH Camera (Atlanta, Georgia) that they had some sorta Canon agreement in place which prohibited sales of new Canon gear to customers outside of US.
Used gear, no problem.



Apr 03, 2012 at 09:31 PM
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What's up with that? Are they still shipping to the other 50 states?


Apr 03, 2012 at 09:31 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
And what has that got to do with trade between Canada and the United States


It has to do with trade between 1. Japan and US and 2. Japan and Canada. Canon makes the rules. If a retailer does not play nice, Canon can retaliate and selectively decrease retailer's margins. Canon stuff sells and retailers are interested to be in Canon's good grace.

I know I am just wild guessing, but this kind of business is not unheard of.

By the way, don't you think Canon Canada's profits are hit when canadians buy from US? Blame Canada... err, Canon Canada



Apr 03, 2012 at 09:44 PM
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Note that Canon Canada is a solely-owned subsidary of Canon USA.


Apr 03, 2012 at 09:49 PM
 

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jcolwell wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up, Henry.

Before I joined CPS Canada, I would really not like to hear this. About half of the new Canon gear I bought was priced sufficiently lower in the US (often at your place) to make an international purchase well worth the slightly greater effort.

As a member of CPS Canada, it's currently not a problem, as the CPS Canada price is invariably below the best prices in the US (after yadda, yadda...). OTOH, if the CPS Canada price discount disappears, then we could all be in a pickle. As it is, most of us might be
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Jim, I know what you are saying, but not all gears are covered by the CPS discount program.



Apr 03, 2012 at 09:50 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Jim, I know what you are saying, but not all gears are covered by the CPS discount program.


Peter, that's right, but I think the biggest effect will be felt by the average Bob (which is Canuck for the US "average Joe'). When I said:

"As it is, most of us might be in a pickle."

I was referring to the effects on non-CPS members (i.e. most Canuck FM'ers) , if the no-shipping-from-the-US happens. That would not be good. Given that Canon Canada is owned by Canon US, it doesn't seem to make much sense, either. Must be politics...



Apr 03, 2012 at 10:13 PM
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ciprian.trofin wrote:
By the way, don't you think Canon Canada's profits are hit when canadians buy from US? Blame Canada... err, Canon Canada



Free trade is a two-way street. What do you think happens to U.S. profits when Americans buy from Canada?

I can buy from a Hong Kong or Japan retailer, so why not the U.S.?



Apr 03, 2012 at 10:19 PM
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ciprian.trofin wrote:
...Blame Canada...


That rings a bell...



Apr 03, 2012 at 10:22 PM
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Does it cost Canon more money to do business in Canada than the US?


Apr 03, 2012 at 10:47 PM
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How long before this means US can't ship Canon gear any where else in the world either?

So now that people have long woken up to the fact they are being ripped off and use the internet to get some price justice, Canon take the Chinese approach of clamping down on such practices and try to maintain their price discrimination with no recourse for the consumer.



Apr 03, 2012 at 10:52 PM
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cineski wrote:
Does it cost Canon more money to do business in Canada than the US?


Don't know. OTOH, I think it's safe to say that Canada has more cold cash.



Apr 03, 2012 at 10:53 PM
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I say we stop shipping the US Canadian hockey players. Then NHL would shut down and Canon would have to play ball. LMAO


Apr 03, 2012 at 11:53 PM
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PetKal wrote:
I was told a while ago by KEH Camera (Atlanta, Georgia) that they had some sorta Canon agreement in place which prohibited sales of new Canon gear to customers outside of US.
Used gear, no problem.


I was told that about 10 years ago by KEH they couldn't ship new to Canada and all I wanted was an extension tube.

It currently could be agreement by retailer. In the end if Canon stops all intercountry sales everyone loses. Yes Canon will be able to charge more, achieve higher profits but they will sell less as customers won't be buying as many gears, the retailers in particular the US will lose the international sales and will not be able to make up the lost sales domestically. Canadian/European sellers may gain sales but I think buyers will look more to the second hand market than buying new or just cut back buying to the same levels we have.









Apr 03, 2012 at 11:55 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
I wonder if the manufacturer is aware of NAFTA?


Are Canon products manufactured in Canada, the USA, or Mexico? If not, it has nothing to do with NAFTA.



Apr 04, 2012 at 01:11 AM
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