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p.1 #1 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

D4,D800, D800E, D40(not a miss print),14-24mm, zeiss w/ aperture ring and a series of new f1.8 g lens. Oh too easy to choose Nikon now! Or, has it always been?

Mar 08, 2012 at 07:09 PM

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p.1 #2 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

No, I think both Canon and Nikon are kings of the hill for pushing each other. The competition between the two is like a chess game without an end; both keep making their moves and we are reap the benefits of their innovative ways.

Mar 08, 2012 at 08:42 PM

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p.1 #3 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

The only thing Nikon is missing is a match for the Canon TSE lenses.

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:15 PM

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p.1 #4 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

........and some f1.2 primes - 85 and 50 both.

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:18 PM

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p.1 #5 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

i'm jealuos of how Zeiss ended up put the aperture ring on nikon but not canon!

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:27 PM

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p.1 #6 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

gaider wrote:
i'm jealuos of how Zeiss ended up put the aperture ring on nikon but not canon!

Probably Canon wants too much money from them to do it.

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:30 PM

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p.1 #7 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

roanjohnnyc wrote:
........and some f1.2 primes - 85 and 50 both.

and 135?

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:34 PM

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p.1 #8 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

Not yet. Nikon also needs a modern 135 f2, 800 f5.6 and an answer to the 5DmkIII (provided it can AF)

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:34 PM

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p.1 #9 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

Reading from day to day endless threads on forums about competition, it comes to mind a question do people actually take photos and learn the nature of light? The question what is better is relevant only if you have no camera, but if you have one, it is surely better of them all: you are free to take it and shoot anything, you have it already. Blabbers around first place have no points of significance, because they have nothing to do with photography — point why we all spending money on camera and lens park.

Just shoot something, learn how to post-process what is already taken and you'll see very soon that all those 'King of the hill' threads are absolutely empty and worthless.

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:41 PM

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p.1 #10 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

400 F5.6 AF lens would be nice too...

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:45 PM

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p.1 #11 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

trenchmonkey wrote:
Not yet. Nikon also needs a modern 135 f2, 800 f5.6 and an answer to the 5DmkIII (provided it can AF)

and an MP-E 65

Not sure what's so game changing about the 5D3, though. It may be better than the D800 in some regards, but the files still look plasticky to me.

Mar 08, 2012 at 09:45 PM

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p.1 #12 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

John Mills wrote:
The only thing Nikon is missing is a match for the Canon TSE lenses.

Amen !

Mar 08, 2012 at 10:28 PM

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p.1 #13 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

Don't forget Canon's radio triggered speedlites.

But none of this diminishes the fact that D800 is an extraordinary camera body.

Mar 08, 2012 at 10:40 PM

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trenchmonkey wrote:
Not yet. Nikon also needs a modern 135 f2, 800 f5.6 and an answer to the 5DmkIII (provided it can AF)

I'd love to hear your logic on why the D800 isn't a direct competitor to the 5DmkIII.

Mar 09, 2012 at 02:06 AM

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p.1 #15 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

Matching Canon's TSE lenses would be #1 for myself as well. A 135/2 would be great. A few Canon guys I know with the 800 also have a 600 or 500. One will sell his 800 as soon as the 200-400 arrives. Lots of $ having a 800 & 600 at the same time, more than I could justify.

I think the D800/E has the 5DMKIII covered. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts as well Will.

Gerard

Mar 09, 2012 at 02:33 AM

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p.1 #16 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

John Mills wrote:
The only thing Nikon is missing is a match for the Canon TSE lenses.

And an updated 80-400, an updated 300/4, an 800/5.6, and ideally an MP-E 65.

But I agree that Nikon's lens lineup is now pretty darn complete in my eyes. Missing a few things, and could be improved in others. But certainly capable and without any serious or glaring weaknesses.

Mar 09, 2012 at 02:49 AM

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p.1 #17 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

trenchmonkey wrote:
Not yet. Nikon also needs [...] an answer to the 5DmkIII (provided it can AF)

Will, if I speculate based on the performance of currently-available bodies, the D800 will have more MP, probably equal noise performance in the real world even without resizing, and better AF performance than the 5D3. And it's cheaper. What part of the 5D3 needs an answer in your eyes?

Mar 09, 2012 at 02:51 AM

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p.1 #18 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

trenchmonkey wrote:

I'd love to hear your logic on why the D800 isn't a direct competitor to the 5DmkIII.

From what speculation I have heard is that the D800 competitor from Canon will be released at Photokina along with a hearsay 14-24mm L. But only time will tell...

Mar 09, 2012 at 02:56 AM

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p.1 #19 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

John, have the rumors you heard said anything about theoretical specs and pricing? Hard for me to figure out where they could put a "D800 killer" in their product line.

Mar 09, 2012 at 03:13 AM

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p.1 #20 · Nikon, King of the Hill?

I am guessing here, that Will is being sarcastic. Just a guess tho.

Mar 09, 2012 at 03:14 AM

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