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Ignore content & composition, interested in your thoughts on the processing - trying something a little different.

Thanks,

Bob




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Mar 03, 2012 at 04:10 AM
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Torn. I like the dreamy quality if that is what you were going for.


Mar 03, 2012 at 04:17 AM
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Would be for good for something nostalgic, americana perhaps.


Mar 03, 2012 at 06:57 AM
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jerbear00 wrote:
Torn. I like the dreamy quality if that is what you were going for.


@jerbear00,

Thanks for the comment.

Looking again in the morning, a start but can stand refinement.

If storms clear out, a rugby match to photograph, else the day to work on the technique.

regards,

Bob



Mar 03, 2012 at 11:30 AM
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AuntiPode wrote:
Would be for good for something nostalgic, americana perhaps.


Thanks Karen,

Getting there but yes, likely not applicable on a broad basis.

Regards,

Bob



Mar 03, 2012 at 11:32 AM
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Bob ... a little too soft in the soft areas, making it a bit more 'dreamy' rather than oof/distance/foreground clues. Some transitions seem smooth and natural, while others seem too abrupt and "bi-directional" rather than linear in progressive nature.

If that makes sense.



Mar 03, 2012 at 03:04 PM
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RustyBug wrote:
Bob ... a little too soft in the soft areas, making it a bit more 'dreamy' rather than oof/distance/foreground clues. Some transitions seem smooth and natural, while others seem too abrupt and "bi-directional" rather than linear in progressive nature.

If that makes sense.


Kent,

Yes, makes perfect sense - initial tests were more like splatter-painting with no real purpose or plan in mind. Proof of concept one might say.

Now, to find something purposeful for application



Bob



Mar 03, 2012 at 10:26 PM
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Bob, glad you understand.

+1 @ "proof of concept" ... same, same with my "test" shots that I periodically post.



Mar 03, 2012 at 10:37 PM
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Like the dreamy DoF like result. I say continue on with the experiments Bob.


Mar 04, 2012 at 02:35 PM
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Are you most interested in the black bleed blur or also the toning? The toning reminds me of full strength selenium. I usually did a split selenium or split sepia where the effect was a little more subtle.

I can see where both the toning and the blurring effect could be effective with some subjects. Love the bed and the bedspread!



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lylejk wrote:
Like the dreamy DoF like result. I say continue on with the experiments Bob.


Thanks Lyle,

Will do.

Bob



Mar 04, 2012 at 08:39 PM
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dmacmillan wrote:
Are you most interested in the black bleed blur or also the toning? The toning reminds me of full strength selenium. I usually did a split selenium or split sepia where the effect was a little more subtle.


Doug,

Both if you have comments or suggestions - somewhat new turf for me.

Copy layer, Gaussian blur, multiply blend, mask, brush gently with soft brush while using reduced opacity settings. I think in retrospect I used a white-wash brush instead. Localized sharpening on bedspread.


I can see where both the toning and the blurring effect could be effective with some subjects. Love the bed and the bedspread!


Thanks,

Hand-crochet by my great-grandmother - weighs a ton.

Bed, an acquisition of my wife's in celebration of moving into this house.

Bob



Mar 04, 2012 at 08:47 PM
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When I think of the time and effort making the bedspread, I feel a terribly lazy slacker.


Mar 04, 2012 at 09:30 PM
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AuntiPode wrote:
When I think of the time and effort making the bedspread, I feel a terribly lazy slacker.


Cannot imagine there was much to do during the long winters on the Eastern Shore of Maryland early 1900's.

Bob


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Mar 04, 2012 at 11:22 PM
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..and she made damn sure she had a warm blanket for her knees while she was doing it!

Not daft

I have my grandmothers, sadly it still needs a few hours work on it.
My wife has promised me she will finish it.



Mar 04, 2012 at 11:44 PM
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The first time I saw the "black bleed" technique used was by Norman Seef. When I was attending school in Los Angeles, my wife worked for Global Business Management. She was an account executive and handled numerous people in the entertainment industry, including Norman. She also handled the accounts of another avid photographer and really nice person, Roddy McDowell.

Through her relationship with Norman, I did some part time work as shooting assistant and printing. Norman came about his look essentially through lack of knowledge of technical aspects of black and white. He developed his negatives in Dektol! Talk about snappy negatives! To compensate for his very contrasty negatives, he developed his prints in D-76. In his early days, he preferred a very soft focus, dreamy look. Instead of using fog filters on the camera, which was in vogue back in the early '70's, he diffused while printing. That's how he got the blacks to "bleed" into the whites. The problem was between the use of D-76 as a print developer and his diffusion, prints on normal grade paper were very muddy. To compensate, Norman printed on Afga #6, the most contrasty grade available.

Norman didn't deliver contact sheets to customers. On a typical shoot, he'd expose 30 rolls or so. After development, I'd make contact sheets and deliver them. He'd go through and mark a frame or two from nearly every roll. I'd then make 16x20's of the frames he marked! These would get delivered to the art director.

He was very particular about his diffusion. There was a particular stocking sold by Sears that he preferred. I'd then stretch it in an embroidery hoop and hold it under the lens for part of the exposure, from 40 to 60% of the time.



Mar 05, 2012 at 02:17 PM
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Interesting story ... but I'm trying to figure out how I can use my wife's hose & hoops in PS.


Mar 05, 2012 at 03:07 PM
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RustyBug wrote:
Interesting story ... but I'm trying to figure out how I can use my wife's hose & hoops in PS.

I think the best you can hope for is to wear your wife's hose while you edit. Your photos might then appear to be softer and more sensitive.



Mar 05, 2012 at 04:00 PM
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I find it difficult to comment on just the processing, not the image holistically, without seeing what you started with out of camera.

Holistically the tonal gradient in the photo, the angle of the lighting, and the placement of the sharper foot of the bed in the foreground make the spread the focal point due to the way it is cross-lit to reveal it's texture. The sepia gives it a warm, homey vibe, but the blurring looks faked and gimmicky to the point I immediately notice it isn't natural and it distracts my thoughts from the content. Using my newly acquired C&C vocabulary, I'd say it has a "lightly sanded" look to it.

As an alternative with regards to processing affecting scanning of the content and the message that creates I'd suggest only blurring the bright window shade and far wall with the photos which serve to frame the focal point of the bed, but only to the point it's not really notices you did it more like the eye in person tracking focus down the bed, and leave it, including the headboard that is part of your story, sharp. Try versions with and without varying degrees of blur on the nightstand and lamp.

In terms of tracking and leading the eye it may be more effective to slightly blur the front of the bed slightly creating a progressively sharper path back across the top of the spread to the headboard. There the trick would be finding the right balance that pulls the eye back to the headboard, but also pulls them back to the foreground to see the larger detail in the foreground. That crosses over into composition but its something you can control with a higher POV (showing more the top than the end / side of the spread) and near/far perspective (creating greater size contrast in the foreground than you have here as a way to pull the viewer back for a second look at the detail of the spread as their last impression vs. thinking, "nice bedroom".



Mar 05, 2012 at 04:12 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Thoughts on processing...experiment


Thanks Chuck,

The image was taken specifically for application of the technique and subsequent play without regard to other aesthetics.

Bob



Mar 05, 2012 at 04:34 PM
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