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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


Handheld at 1/50sec. No cropping. Shot at 300mm (35mm equivalent of 810mm)




  NIKON 1 V1    VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G lens    300mm    f/5.6    1/50s    1600 ISO    0.0 EV  



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Feb 29, 2012 at 06:12 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


Ok?

Looks a bit blurry and soft.

Also it seems like a lot of veiling haze.

The image also seems kind of noisy and low resolution.



Feb 29, 2012 at 06:15 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


FlyPenFly wrote:
Ok?

Looks a bit blurry and soft.

Also it seems like a lot of veiling haze.

The image also seems kind of noisy and low resolution.


dude that was shot handheld at 1/50 at 1600 ISO on a 800mm equivalent lens. I'd say its not too shabby.

The guy has some very good skills to pull off that good of an image with those settings and equipment.



Feb 29, 2012 at 06:29 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


I'm not a birder but the bird photography that gets posted in some of the perpetual threads here seem of a much higher quality.


Feb 29, 2012 at 06:31 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


FlyPenFly wrote:
I'm not a birder but the bird photography that gets posted in some of the perpetual threads here seem of a much higher quality.


Yes a D3 and a 600mm F4 will give you that.

A lot of those guys have $10-15k invested in their birding setup, i was one of them lol.

For such a tiny sensor, with an adapted consumer lens at high iso, very low shutter speed and handheld i would say its a pretty solid image.




Feb 29, 2012 at 06:42 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


I don't need to defend Tony, he is one of the most skilled and talented wildlife photographers we have here at FM. Given the circumstances of the image capture it is a good example of what I am sure Tony was trying to demonstrate which is the capabilities of the V1 and this lens. I don't find the image to be anything you stated Flypenfly.

Dave



Feb 29, 2012 at 06:43 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


Obviously not saying anything about the capabilities of the photographer.

However, just speaking from a file quality point of view, it doesn't seem good? It doesn't seem as good as an iPhone 4S in terms of just the quality of the file.

Of course I'm sure I couldn't take a photo of a bird that closely with an iPhone 4S.

I'm purely speaking in terms of file quality.



Feb 29, 2012 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


It's the same processed plastic look as in the chickadee photos in the 300mm f/4 thread. Tony's demontrated the V1's capabilities well enough for me, I'm not interested.


Feb 29, 2012 at 06:54 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


I guess decision whether this shot is "yawn" or "wow" depends on what you are looking for. Image quality overall is so-so. Image quality for 1/50s 810mm handheld - wow! It beats the classic handheld exposure time rule (<1/focal distance) by 1620%.

Bottom line - with this little camera you'll be able to pull off at least so-so shots even in the most difficult conditions!



Feb 29, 2012 at 07:10 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


IDK about 1/50 sec (I usually run into subject motion problems) but I've regularly used 1/125 sec and occasionally 1/60 sec with a 560mm lens on a 1.37x crop camera (same field of view as 767mm on a full-frame camera) using a shoulder stock & monopod and the results at 16" x 20" look like a photograph full of detail, not processed plastic. I'm not interseted in so-so shots.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


Ah....got to love the alternative forum for always missing the forest for the trees.

Most people see an image of a bird, alt forum sees a bunch of pixels they need to over analyze.



Feb 29, 2012 at 07:21 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


This is a gear forum.

Its like you went to a concert and complain about all the loud music.



Feb 29, 2012 at 07:22 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


millsart wrote:
Ah....got to love the alternative forum for always missing the forest for the trees.

Most people see an image of a bird, alt forum sees a bunch of pixels they need to over analyze.


Isn't this thread about the capabilities of a particular piece of equipment? The title of the thread is "Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300" not "Pileated Woodpecker".


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Feb 29, 2012 at 07:39 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


Well, from any given photo you can only conclude that the capability of the equipment is no less than what you see. More photos are needed to show how high it can go.

Doug, you can look elsewhere, this isn't going to be DMR+280/4 territory, but it could make some people happy



Feb 29, 2012 at 07:42 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


telyt wrote:
Isn't this thread about the capabilities of a particular piece of equipment?


Sure but with all due respect you are coming across as a bit of a pompous.....



Feb 29, 2012 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


carstenw wrote:
Well, from any given photo you can only conclude that the capability of the equipment is no less than what you see. More photos are needed to show how high it can go.

Doug, you can look elsewhere, this isn't going to be DMR+280/4 territory, but it could make some people happy


Yes it could make some people happy, but some perspective would be good too. I have to wonder how many reading this forum have seen a good paper print.

A fun, small camera, sure. Producing good quality results, that's not what I've seen so far.



Feb 29, 2012 at 07:51 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


I have seen some quite good results with it, but nothing mind-blowing. It is a fun second camera for us enthusiasts, and possibly a very good first camera for someone with somewhat lower standards. It is way above any P&S and about equal to the current MFT cameras, the OM-D excluded.

The V1 with your 280/4 would be an interesting test.



Feb 29, 2012 at 08:30 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


alemmo wrote:
Sure but with all due respect you are coming across as a bit of a pompous.....


I don't think so. Doug is just putting everything on the same scale, instead of keeping a separate scale for cheaper/smaller cameras. This is just as valid a viewpoint. Clearly the V1 is not going to replace any good DSLR, like the DMR or some of the high-end Nikons, but it can pull off some very decent shots if you lower your standards a bit.



Feb 29, 2012 at 08:32 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


carstenw wrote:
The V1 with your 280/4 would be an interesting test.


It would be better IMHO to use a lens designed for the smaller format. Much of the 280's spectacular image quality is its consistently high MTF curves all the way to the edge of the 24x36 frame and most of that would be thrown away on this camera.



Feb 29, 2012 at 08:49 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Nikon 1 V1 & 70-300


Given, but in the centre it is still going to be a better lens than the competition right now. It wouldn't make sense to buy such a lens for this camera, but if you had the lens for other reasons, it would be interesting to see how it could perform in a V1.


Feb 29, 2012 at 08:50 PM
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