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p.1 #1 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


Trying to decide which one for a travel, general zoom. I have the 70-200 2.8 IS but it is really more than I want to carry on vacation. I may pick up one of the aforementioned, sell the 2.8Is and pick up a 200 prime if I need it.

I tried out the 70-300L and it seems tack sharp, small, easy to stow away. The F4IS is not far behind. My only really hangup is the variable f stop on the 7-3. Any help or suggestions from those who have both or have used both would be appreciated. Did a search but did not come up with a lot.

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Feb 17, 2012 at 02:11 PM
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p.1 #2 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


The f4IS would be an easy choice for me. I just don't find I need 300mm unless I'm shooting wildlife or sports and then I want 400mm.
The 70-300 is about a pound lighter than than the 70-200MKII but the 70-200 f4IS shaves another 8 ounces off that! The f4IS ends up being lighter, cheaper and is a perfect travel lens.

Dave



Feb 17, 2012 at 02:47 PM
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p.1 #3 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


I use the 70-200 f/4 for travel and I like it quite a bit. I have never used the 70-300L. I'd say go for size and convenience. The reviews for the 70-300L look great so either should be sharp and crisp. How is the size of the 70-300L? it seems like the 70-300 might be a little bigger?

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Feb 17, 2012 at 02:52 PM
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p.1 #4 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


If your not using the 70-200 2.8 then sell it and get either of the two you are considering, both will make an excellent travel lens. I have the 70-200 F4L non IS and its a gem of a lens in terms of price, size & weight. I also have the 100-400 which is similar to the 70-200 2.8 so i can understand why you don't want to carry for general travel but its hard to beat the flexibility of this lens.


Feb 17, 2012 at 02:53 PM
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p.1 #5 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


Thanks for all the help. I was thinking the 7-2 f4 IS until I picked up the 7-3. It is pretty compact and I took my testing charts to the store and it was razor sharp at 300 mm wide open and 1/80 second. Up until 100mm they are both rock solid at f4. Do they both have the same generation of IS?

My use of he 70-200 2.8IS has dropped off dramatically since I cut my sport shooting way down. I hate to get rid of it since I went throught about 9 copies to get an absolute gem (version 1)



Feb 17, 2012 at 03:05 PM
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p.1 #6 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


I have the 70-200 F4 IS and I also say go for size and convenience if you're looking for a travel lens. I'm looking at trading mine for the 70-300L mainly for the smaller size and longer range.


Feb 17, 2012 at 03:30 PM
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p.1 #7 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


The 70-200 f/4 IS was the best zoom I had owned until I sold it and bought the f/2.8 IS II version. I still miss the f/4 IS version. It was the perfect travel lens. Most of the time while traveling I don't need tele zooms though. Most of the photos I take a wide angle to moderate tele (100mm-ish)


Feb 17, 2012 at 03:38 PM
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p.1 #8 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


The 70-300L is not really much smaller (roughly 1" shorter but 1/2" larger in dia) than the 70-200f4IS plus the 300 weighs a good half pound more.
twistedlim where in Mi do you go that has a 300L in stock?

Dave



Feb 17, 2012 at 03:43 PM
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p.1 #9 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


I bought the 70-300L because I kept adding a 1.4tc to the 70-200F4IS. In windy, dusty conditions it was less than ideal to add the TC. Image quality is similar between these two lenses so really it comes down to whether the extra reach of the 70-300L matters to you. I would also say the weight of the 70-300L makes the optional tripod collar helpful at the longer focal lengths. I've kept the 70-200F4IS for now but I really haven't used it much since getting the 70-300L. I also have the 2.8II so it is sort of the monkey in the middle. I just have a hard time letting go of a great lens.


Feb 17, 2012 at 03:58 PM
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DLP wrote:
The 70-300L is not really much smaller (roughly 1" shorter but 1/2" larger in dia) than the 70-200f4IS plus the 300 weighs a good half pound more.
twistedlim where in Mi do you go that has a 300L in stock?

Dave



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p.1 #11 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


NCAndy wrote:
I also have the 2.8II so it is sort of the monkey in the middle. I just have a hard time letting go of a great lens.



+++! although mine is a stellar copy of the version 1.



Feb 17, 2012 at 04:03 PM
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p.1 #12 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


galenapass wrote:
How is the size of the 70-300L? it seems like the 70-300 might be a little bigger?





About the weight, size and feel of the 24-70 2.8. Shorter, a bit fatter and about 8 ounces heavier than the 70-200 f4is



Feb 17, 2012 at 04:15 PM
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p.1 #13 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


70-300L is great.
I can't recommend it enough as an outdoor long lens.
But I'd get an 85/1.8, or 100/2 or 135/2L or ZE 100/2 Makro to complement it.



Feb 17, 2012 at 04:18 PM
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p.1 #14 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


I love my 70-200 f/4 IS. It's a great lens. I thought about the 70-300 lenses, but I don't really use 300 that often. When I do, I'll rent the 300 f/4L IS.


Feb 17, 2012 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #15 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


On the 70-300 for all intensive purposes it is very similar to the 70-200 f4 up to 150 mm? Am I reading this correct. The thought of f5.6 chills me though . I think my 2.8 IS is fuzed at 2.8 it has been set there so long
.....f/4.0...........f/4.5........... f/5.0............ f/5.6
70-103mm 104-154mm 155-228mm 229-300mm



Feb 17, 2012 at 05:06 PM
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p.1 #16 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


twistedlim wrote:
On the 70-300 for all intensive purposes it is very similar to the 70-200 f4 up to 150 mm? Am I reading this correct.
.....f/4.0...........f/4.5........... f/5.0............ f/5.6
70-103mm 104-154mm 155-228mm 229-300mm


Not if your chart is correct. You loose f4 @ 103mm. Variable App is a deal breaker for me. If I need to loose a stop and stretch a bit I'll slap on the 1.4x. f5 @ 280 Vs 155.
70-200 f4IS @280MM with 1.4MKII.









Feb 17, 2012 at 05:31 PM
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p.1 #17 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


twistedlim wrote:
On the 70-300 for all intensive purposes it is very similar to the 70-200 f4 up to 150 mm? Am I reading this correct. The thought of f5.6 chills me though . I think my 2.8 IS is fuzed at 2.8 it has been set there so long
.....f/4.0...........f/4.5........... f/5.0............ f/5.6
70-103mm 104-154mm 155-228mm 229-300mm


Well that depends on what you use a travel lens for. For me, a travel lens usually means landscape so the variable aperture doesn't bother me at all. Also, the bokeh at 300mm f5.6 isn't that much different than 200mm at f4. The perspective changes of course but that isn't always a bad thing.



Feb 17, 2012 at 05:50 PM
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p.1 #18 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


Well, 4.5 is only a third of a stop at 150 so not a great deal in the big scheme of things. I thought putting an 1.4 extender decreased the light by a full stop which would take you to 5.6 at 280? At 200 mm it would be 2/3 stop and that is getting significant.


Feb 17, 2012 at 05:51 PM
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p.1 #19 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


twistedlim wrote:
I thought putting an 1.4 extender decreased the light by a full stop which would take you to 5.6 at 280?


f5.6 with the TC is correct. Bokeh with either option is bound to disappoint compared to the 2.8MKII.

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Feb 17, 2012 at 05:58 PM
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p.1 #20 · 70-200 f4 IS and the 70-300 f4-5.6L


twistedlim wrote:
Well, 4.5 is only a third of a stop at 150 so not a great deal in the big scheme of things. I thought putting an 1.4 extender decreased the light by a full stop which would take you to 5.6 at 280? At 200 mm it would be 2/3 stop and that is getting significant.


I used the 70-200F4IS with the 1.4TCII and I would never argue against that setup. You do lose one stop with the 1.4x but you get 280mm with it. It is a very adaptable system with very good IQ. I think the 70-300L is better than the 70-200 with 1.4x but I'm not sure it would be something you would see in print unless you print huge.



Feb 17, 2012 at 06:00 PM
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