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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


Among the many here who think Canon bodies are being out-featured by Nikon, how many also think the Nikon lens collection has the edge? Let's break it down a bit:

Say whether you think Nikon has the lens edge for...

1. Weddings and Events

2. Stage Photography

3. Product Shots and Advertising

4. Fashion

5. Sports

6. Wildlife

7. Landscape

8. Journalism

9. Street Photography

10. Family Photos

11. Macro and Documentation

Please try to keep comments just on the lenses. Let body issues continue on other threads. If you think either company offers particular lenses that offer unique functionality—that the other does not rival at all—those might be interesting to hear about.

I am going to put this on both forums.







Feb 07, 2012 at 03:46 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


There are too many different styles of each genre to give a meaningful answer.


Feb 07, 2012 at 03:50 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


I would say definetly Canon glass still has a pretty big advantage.


Feb 07, 2012 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


For me , mostly a landscaper, looking to go FF from a 7D...

17-40L has no nikon equive
400/5.6L has no nikon equive
24tse is better than nikons, 17tse exists

For nikon
14-24 is superb
24-70 is great
24-120 is ok



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:37 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


hehe r u serious? you'd get the exact same (different) answer in both forums if you didn't include the list


Feb 07, 2012 at 04:40 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


RobDickinson wrote:
17-40L has no nikon equive

Nikon has the 16-35 f/4 VR. It is quite a bit more expensive than the Canon 17-40 F/4 probably due to having VR. There's also the discontinued 18-35 f/3.5-4.5.

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Feb 07, 2012 at 04:41 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


Canon superteles are alone to keep me in their camp, plus they have 135 f/2L, 65 MP-E, 70-200 f/2.8L IS mk II and 70-200 f/4l IS that are sensational and two f/1.2 lenses as well as 17 TS-E. Nikon has the 14-24 and the ummm ...

Rob what happened to the Nikon 16-35 f/4 VR? I'd say that is the equivalent of the 17-40L.



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:43 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


The 50/1.2L is my bread and butter. That lens alone is enough to keep me with Canon, regardless of how good Nikon bodies are.


Feb 07, 2012 at 04:49 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


deepbluejh wrote:
The 50/1.2L is my bread and butter. That lens alone is enough to keep me with Canon, regardless of how good Nikon bodies are.


Nikon has a 50mm f/1.2, albeit in manual focus.

Plus several primes that were recently updated, such as 50mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8.

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Feb 07, 2012 at 04:51 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


kakomu wrote:
Nikon has a 50mm f/1.2, albeit in manual focus.


Which is just as good as worthless to me and practically everyone else



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:51 PM
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deepbluejh wrote:
Which is just as good as worthless to me and practically everyone else


Not worthless to me. I use manual focus all the time, even with my AF lenses. Moreover, I don't see how manual focus is so worthless, considering many people are very concerned about full time manual focusing of USM lenses.



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:53 PM
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kakomu wrote:
Not worthless to me. I use manual focus all the time, even with my AF lenses. Moreover, I don't see how manual focus is so worthless, considering many people are very concerned about full time manual focusing of USM lenses.


Not for everyone I guess, but the moments I photography come and go in a split heartbeat. MF just won't cut it.



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


I am not into Nikon anymore... but the Canon lenses I own/use are all up to their tasks.


Feb 07, 2012 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


I don't that Nikon has the edge in any category. Their 14-24 is pretty amazing but mostly for interior work. For landscape the 24 ts-e is probably way better overal. The only lens that the nikon version was better than the canon was the 24-70. But as of yesterday things probably changed


Feb 07, 2012 at 05:04 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Rob what happened to the Nikon 16-35 f/4 VR? I'd say that is the equivalent of the 17-40L.


Its supposed to be, but its way more expensive and bigger/heavier. I just dont think nikon could bring themselves to make a small light cheap UWA.

My ideal landscape lens bag would be (from canon) - I have non of these lenses as yet:
24tse
17-40L
24-105L
70-300L

now have to work out what I would do with a nikon body.



Feb 07, 2012 at 06:24 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


Dude...canon rocks :

35L
85L
135L
80-200L (yes i know old lens but a magical one with no parallel in price performance)
24-105L (although i don't use it anymore)
50 1.8
100-400L
400 5.6

Plus the 17-40L at very good price.



Feb 07, 2012 at 06:32 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


Just to add, and this (at least for me) is the MOST important decisive factor :

- Canon has 10x the used market on lens

This lets me buy and sell used gear almost without loosing money, until i hit lens i really like and stick to it.
So far i have sticked to many

Nikon has a very small used market on epay and similar...



Feb 07, 2012 at 06:36 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


safcraft wrote:
Just to add, and this (at least for me) is the MOST important decisive factor :
- Canon has 10x the used market on lens


EF mount lenses are slightly more numerous than F mount lenses. Slightly. Theres a few million in it (50 vs 55 etc).



Feb 07, 2012 at 06:40 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


Imo, at this stage - whoever give us the best IQ (af, dr, mp) win


Feb 07, 2012 at 06:48 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Judging the Race: Bodies vs Lenses


I love the Canon flat aperature, 2.8 zooms: 16-35, 24-70, 70-200

Even if I dont shoot wide open, I want the nice, bright viewfinder. 4.0 is too slow and dim!

I love my Canon 45mm and 90mm TSE. Always planned to add a 17mm TSE.

I love my 85mm 1.2 That **has** to be auto focus for me. To shoot that wide open, fast (fashion), with a razor slim depth of field, I can update focus immediately (for small forward/back motion) and pop a pic with the right sensor highlighted in camera.

So ... I was just looking at Nikon lenses, because I just pre-ordered the 800E. I feel a little sad leaving those specific Canon lenses, plus the 17-40.

I have not tried any of the Nikon lenses since 1982. Hoping to learn. But I am only looking at the latest, best, current version lenses.

Hoping to learn through this thread and the other. I'd appreciate professional honesty, not fan boy hype.

Any recent MTF tests, DxO tests, etc?

Thanks! Michael



Feb 07, 2012 at 07:17 PM
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