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GC5 wrote:
Canon is, however, putting some clamps on the dslr video market. I question that strategy, but if you are in to video, Canon offers a whole lot more than Nikon...


Until the D4 and D800 with clean HDMI out....



Feb 07, 2012 at 12:10 PM
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Perhaps due to the WA primes with IS!!!! Now, that was stupid.

And the D800 was just icing on the cake.



Feb 07, 2012 at 12:27 PM
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Perhaps due to the WA primes with IS!!!! Now, that was stupid.


Yeah, stupid like Nikon and their WA prime with IS VR.

They are all stupid and it is a crime against nature that they all increased their profit again last year despite earthquakes and floods.

Definitely not as smart as internet commentators.



Feb 07, 2012 at 12:32 PM
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p.2 #4 · Canon President Will Step Down.


Good. Their leadership sucks. And they still have no idea how to listen to customers.


Feb 07, 2012 at 12:33 PM
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From what I've seen, the c300 looks pretty darn impressive. Not my area though, so maybe the D800 will still be better for video. Certainly a lot less expensive.


Feb 07, 2012 at 12:33 PM
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They might know internally both 1DX and 5DIII may not be competitive enough with Nikon D4 or D800.

1DX still uses the same "ADC on board" style design => more read noise => they will not come close to D4 or even D800 in terms of low ISO dynamic range. Nikon is known to have achieved very high quantum efficiency on their D3s... If that is taken as an indication D4 might kill 1DX even at high ISO. Nikon AF is proven for consistency canon's 61pt system is not yet proven in the field. (adv nikon)

If 1DX uses on board ADCs i will expect 5DIII to do so too. => D800 might kill 5DIII on low ISO dynamic range let alone 36MP vs 22MP. Nikon seems to have caught up in the video department too both with D800 and D4.

$1200 D7000 almost challenges $1600 7D.

Canon knew it was coming since the last generation... Now it looks like they are a step behind in their strategies and it seems very appropriate time for change in management and strategy.

Disclaimer: I do not mean to say Nikon D4 or D800 are/will be better than Canons counter parts it might well be other way around. But it feels there is lack of proper strategy when you just look at the announcements/rumors. whereas nikon looks more aggressive and focussed.



Feb 07, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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Yeah, stupid like Nikon and their WA prime with IS VR.

They are all stupid and it is a crime against nature that they all increased their profit again last year despite earthquakes and floods.

Definitely not as smart as internet commentators.


Oh, come on! - 28 f/2.8 and 24 2.8 with IS? How about an updated 50 1.4 with real micro-USM and IS, now that would make sense.

And a new 24-70 f/2.8, but that has no IS??

If you did a poll here of most wanted new lenses/updates I bet the 24 2.8 and the 28 2.8 wouldn't even make the list.

I've shot Canon for years, but these recent decisions are just horrible.

No wonder the president of Canon is history.



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:00 PM
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Because he wants to buy a D800 and it is unethical as Canon's president.


Feb 07, 2012 at 01:02 PM
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maybe he's just old and rich and wants to enjoy himself?
(wish my rose colored glasses had IS)



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:05 PM
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michael49 wrote:
Oh, come on! - 28 f/2.8 and 24 2.8 with IS? How about an updated 50 1.4 with real micro-USM and IS, now that would make sense.

And a new 24-70 f/2.8, but that has no IS??

If you did a poll here of most wanted new lenses/updates I bet the 24 2.8 and the 28 2.8 wouldn't even make the list.

I've shot Canon for years, but these recent decisions are just horrible.

No wonder the president of Canon is history.


To be perfectly fair, Canon's president likely had nothing to do with those decisions. Project managers and engineers had everything to do with them.



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:12 PM
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Yeah but unlike many western countries, Japanese leaders are expected to take responsibility for the actions and results and do.


Feb 07, 2012 at 01:34 PM
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I believe the decision to oust the president is due to the lack of profitability and the overall direction of the company. These are the things that the president focuses on. Individual products will be hit and miss - that's just how things go. But the overall forecast needs to be positive. That's the president's job.

Product managers and engineers are almost always the ones who take the fall when an individual product fails - unless of course the product is so big that the well being of the entire company is staked on it. Keep in mind Canon is a HUGE company and DSLR sales are a relatively small portion of it.



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:37 PM
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deepbluejh wrote:
Maybe this will shake things up a bit.

doubt it
Canon could drop out of the Dslr business and not even feel it as a company. They are sinking for other reasons. I am sure no one cares about all this D4 vs 1Dx crap we argue over. They have to many other things to sell to large corporations.

After the D4 and D800 release along with the affordable 85 1.8 he had no choice but to go to the darkside



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:43 PM
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Actually, ... there are a lot of know-it-alls posting without bothering to actually read the article. You know, reading for comprehension, the lost art.

Canon expects to sell 22 million non-DSLRs last year and 9 million DSLRs. The DSLRs are more expensive and probably just as much or more dollar volume than the non-DSLRs. Plus there are lenses and flashes for the DSLRs for even more dollar volume.

... and profit.

DSLRs count.



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:48 PM
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Beni wrote:
Until the D4 and D800 with clean HDMI out....


It is very short sighted to think that a whole industry will change because of one or two camera bodies. Canon took the leap into hdslr when Nikon was shipping out a a 12mp Full Frame camera based on a circa 2005 Canon 5d as benchmark. Over the course of a few years, the support for Canon hdslr has grown. Not to mention the high quality cine-lenses + over 50 EF lenses that Canon produces to support movie making. By contrast, Nikon is nowhere to be found.
Like anything it is all about support systems. I know of many friends that are sold off their Nikons because of lack of hdslr support accessories.

And the D7000 is no more a challenge to the 7D's performance as its 60D is. I thought discerning folks no longer use DxOmarks. Hahaha.... Reminds me of the geeks using 3DMark scores to validate videocard performance.



Feb 07, 2012 at 01:54 PM
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deepbluejh wrote:
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To be perfectly fair, Canon's president likely had nothing to do with those decisions. Project managers and engineers had everything to do with them.


Agreed, but presidents/CEO's commonly step down for mistakes that are often not their own.



Feb 07, 2012 at 02:17 PM
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Odd that this happens in the wake of the D800 announcement--Coincidence? I don't know, but it almost seems as if someone lost a very, very large bet

(Just so everyone is clear, that was a joke...)

Edited on Feb 07, 2012 at 04:09 PM · View previous versions



Feb 07, 2012 at 02:28 PM
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I think EOS DSLRs and lenses are to Canon what M Division is to BMW and AMG to Mercedes, not very big in the overall scheme of the company.

The tail doesn't wag the dog.



Feb 07, 2012 at 04:06 PM
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Bye bye


Feb 07, 2012 at 05:02 PM
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p.2 #20 · Canon President Will Step Down.


Maybe because of this?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-06/nikon-jumps-most-in-3-years-after-forecasting-higher-profit-tokyo-mover.html

Nikon stock jumped approx 13% ... this is the sort of thing presidents resign over



Feb 07, 2012 at 05:45 PM
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