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p.1 #1 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


OK, probably not quite what some of you have been waiting for - unless Canon has decided to outsource it.
http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2012/0206.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PhotoZoneIndustryNews+%28Photozone+Industry+News%29

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Feb 06, 2012 at 07:55 AM
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p.1 #2 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Thxs.



Feb 06, 2012 at 08:29 AM
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p.1 #3 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Finally . Well I say finally but Tamron vapourware normally takes quite a while so lets not hold our breath.

Anyaway, I find it quite strange that someone like Tamron or sigma havnt done this before. Tamrons 70-300 is a fine lens. The AF seems great (their first stab at ring drive) and the VC is as good as as any other.

If this is optically good and the price is sensible then I see no reason not to.



Feb 06, 2012 at 09:09 AM
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p.1 #4 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


If Tamron can do it, then Canon certainly can as well. I sure hope they do!


Feb 06, 2012 at 09:26 AM
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p.1 #5 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Ian.Dobinson wrote:
Finally . Well I say finally but Tamron vapourware normally takes quite a while so lets not hold our breath.

I'd expect to see it by Christmas. I agree that the 70-300 was vapourware for quite a bit but then came to bite the community in the ass quite hard.


Anyaway, I find it quite strange that someone like Tamron or sigma havnt done this before. Tamrons 70-300 is a fine lens. The AF seems great (their first stab at ring drive) and the VC is as good as as any other.

If this is optically good and the price is sensible then I see no reason not to.

Same here. If it's good I might give it a go - especially if my newfound side job of shooting in the theatre really takes root. The 16-35 + 70-200 combo isn't as good there I've found - the 16-35 is all but worthless unless I sneak up on the parts of the action occuring in the audience (yes, this theatre has this sort of thing. I'm often left wanting to shoot just below 70 for a general shot with more than one person so I end up whipping out a 50/1.8. Which isn't a lens I'd trust for work like this implicitly, and it has noisy AF. The shutter clicking is irritating enough for the public I guess; I half expect to be clubbed to death right there and then every time I'm shooting in a theatre. I was kicked out of one once, like 5 years ago.
On a side note it's bound to cost much less than whatever Canon may or may not produce (whether there's going to be a new 24-70L and whether or not it's going to have IS remains anybody's guess).
I'm hoping this lens becomes a part of a growing trend of Tamron's rise to higher tier - which would entail updating their most popular lenses with USM and probably stabilization where applicable. I wish they update their 17-50, 200-500 and 70-200 with ultrasonic motors (the latter two would also benefit from VC), as well as all the macros. The only thing that keeps me from getting the 60 macro is the comparatively weak AF motor performance. Oh, and release a decent wide angle zoom already Tamron. The 17-35 is hopelessly dated (noisy AF, horrible edge performance). Even Tokina got off their arse recently.
Man, I'm looking at all the recent developments in the photographic world, and it's really a good time.



Feb 06, 2012 at 09:43 AM
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p.1 #6 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


I wonder if the Tammy 24-70 has a clutch to disengage the MF ring during AF. I owned one of their lenses a few years back and found the spinning MF ring bothersome.


Feb 06, 2012 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #7 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


I don't care for the 82mm filter size


Feb 06, 2012 at 09:55 AM
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p.1 #8 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


I hope the build quality is better than Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8.

Tamron 24-70 (A007) vs 28-75 (A09):
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Stabilized: YES / NO
Lenses Construction (Groups / Elements): 12 / 17 vs 14 / 16
Diaphragm Blades: 9 vs 7
Minimum aperture: F/22 vs F/32
Filter size: 82mm vs 67mm
Minimum focus distance: 38cm vs 33cm
Maximum magnification ratio: 1:5 vs 1:3.9
Weight: 825g vs 510g



Feb 06, 2012 at 10:16 AM
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p.1 #9 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Not sure about old Tammys, but newer ones don't use a clutch mechanism, that's Tokinas and older Sigmas.

Looks good and I always said they'd be the first to do a stablised lens in this FL range. The only disappointment is the magnification of 0.2:1 @ mfd vs 0.33:1 on the 28-75 f/2.8, but even the new Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 also dropped in magnification from the older model.

Obviously a much different design as weight has sky-rocketed to 825g from closer to 500g for the 28-75.

Should be an excellent lens and if under $1K I'll be looking into one.



Feb 06, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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p.1 #10 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Gochugogi wrote:
I wonder if the Tammy 24-70 has a clutch to disengage the MF ring during AF. I owned one of their lenses a few years back and found the spinning MF ring bothersome.

It has ultrasonic AF so the clutch is not needed. Nor it is used on a few of their newest lenses - the 60/2 macro has FTM (though the AF is not ultrasonic) and so does 70-300 which is USM.

rprouty wrote:
I don't care for the 82mm filter size

But you have a 16-35 (at least your profile states so) which also has a 82mm filter thread. (unless it's the non-II version).



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p.1 #11 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Gochugogi wrote:
I wonder if the Tammy 24-70 has a clutch to disengage the MF ring during AF. I owned one of their lenses a few years back and found the spinning MF ring bothersome.


No . It's nothing li,e the old AF drives.
From the text in that link:
Features USD*2 (Ultrasonic Silent Drive) to power a speedy AF drive together with a continuous manual mechanism.


As Ilia says I hop they upgrade teir other good lenses with both the USD and VC .




Feb 06, 2012 at 11:24 AM
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p.1 #12 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Check out the weight, very heavy for a Tamorn lens. If weight means quality build it may be a winner. Pick it up and send it in for calibration and see how it works


Feb 06, 2012 at 11:54 AM
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p.1 #13 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


ciprian.trofin wrote:
I hope the build quality is better than Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8.




Bah, bag on the 28-75 all you want, but every copy of the lens I've ever owned has been great, and currently I'm shooting with a thrice-owned FM copy that, while having some zoom creep, works great (and at $250 was well worth it!)

Don't need all-metal housings to make great images.


I agree on the 82mm filter size, though - big bummer there.



Feb 06, 2012 at 12:07 PM
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p.1 #14 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Well, based on the performance of the SP 28-75/2.8 XR Di AF and SP 70-300/4-5.6 VC (both of which I own), I'll wait for the Canon EF 24-70/2.8L IS



Feb 06, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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p.1 #15 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


cputeq wrote:
Bah, bag on the 28-75 all you want, but every copy of the lens I've ever owned has been great, and currently I'm shooting with a thrice-owned FM copy that, while having some zoom creep, works great (and at $250 was well worth it!)

Don't need all-metal housings to make great images.

I agree on the 82mm filter size, though - big bummer there.

Dude, I said nothing about IQ. I was complaining about the build quality - the rubber ring gets loose each year and I need to change it, the aperture control got defective (my lens skips a step) and some other annoyances. The lens build doesn't really allow it to take a beating. I hope the new Tamron will be significantly cheaper than Canon L to justify the investment.



Feb 06, 2012 at 12:40 PM
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p.1 #16 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


jcolwell wrote:
Well, based on the performance of the SP 28-75/2.8 XR Di AF and SP 70-300/4-5.6 VC (both of which I own), I'll wait for the Canon EF 24-70/2.8L IS


Not sure about the possible interpretations of this, but my take is:

A:
Since you own the 28-75, it is definitely not a crap lens. The Canon EF 27-70 II will likely not have IS, in which case there will never be any 24-70 IS. You dont see any need to upgrade at all?

B:
The SP 28-75 and SP 70-300 are toy lenses and you expect the Canon 24-70 II to be far ahead in image quality and hope it will have IS?



Feb 06, 2012 at 12:45 PM
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p.1 #17 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


alundeb wrote:
Not sure about the possible interpretations of this, but my take is:

A:
Since you own the 28-75, it is definitely not a crap lens. The Canon EF 27-70 II will likely not have IS, in which case there will never be any 24-70 IS. You dont see any need to upgrade at all?

B:
The SP 28-75 and SP 70-300 are toy lenses and you expect the Canon 24-70 II to be far ahead in image quality and hope it will have IS?


OK. I can be a little more specific.

A: I never said it was crap. I own the 24-105L IS and most fast Canon primes from 24/1.4L to 200/1.8L. I recently sold my EF 24-70/2.8L because I didn't use it much, not because it has poor IQ. I might upgrade to a 24-70/2.8L IS; otherwise, I have no need to do so.

B: I never said anything about toys. I do expect the 24-70/2.8L IS to be far ahead in IQ.

The image quality, build quality, and AF performance of the SP 28-75/2.8 and SP 70-300/4-5.6 VC are not as good as the equivalent Canon L-series zoom lenses. This does not mean that the Tamrons are not better than other alternatives, nor that they're not worth having. It simply means that I would prefer to wait for the Canon 24-70/2.8L IS, because I'm confident that it'll be better in most, if not all, meaningful performance characteristics. The Canon will probably be heavier, and it will definitely be more expensive.

Again, based on my personal experience, the SP 70-300/4-5.6 VC is more-or-less on par with the Canon EF 70-300/4-5.6 IS USM. The Canon 70-200/4L IS and 70-200/2.8L IS I and II are both significantly better than the SP. This should be no surprise.

Both of the Tamron zooms that I currently own are on semi-permanent loan to my daughter. She takes many wonderful photos with them. If they had higher resale value, she wouldn't have them, and I could afford a new set of windshield wipers for my Yaris. I apologize if this last statement isn't sufficiently clear.

BTW, if the next version of the Canon EF 24/2.8L is a "Mark II", then it will not have IS. If it has IS, then it will be called the EF 24-70/2.8L IS, and it will be the "Mark I" version of this lens.



Feb 06, 2012 at 01:10 PM
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p.1 #18 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


rprouty wrote:
I don't care for the 82mm filter size


+1.



Feb 06, 2012 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #19 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


Somehow, I'm not holding my breath for the IS version of the 24-70 L. I know I'm not going to be able to afford it anyways, just because I'd rather spend the money elsewhere (24/1.4 L, new camera body... you get the idea). But if the Tamron is reasonably priced and tests to be a good performer, I may give it a closer look.
YMMV



Feb 06, 2012 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #20 · The stabilized (Tamron) 24-70/2.8 is here!


jcolwell wrote:
Both of the Tamron zooms that I currently own are on semi-permanent loan to my daughter. She takes many wonderful photos with them. If they had higher resale value, she wouldn't have them, and I could afford a new set of windshield wipers for my Yaris. I apologize if this last statement isn't sufficiently clear.



Thanks for the explanation Jim

I usually bundle lenses with that low resale value with lower end DSLR camera bodies I sell or give away



Feb 06, 2012 at 02:02 PM
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