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p.1 #1 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


I currently am shooting on a 5D mark II with a 24-70mm and a 70-200 2.8. I am shooting a wedding for a friend next week and have another shoot where I need a wide angle in a church. I am scheduled to meet a guy after several communications on Craigslist for a 16-35mm 2.8 for $950(local pick up) mk I. Is that the right lens? I planned on renting the lens for the shoots but figured since I am getting paid, I might as well put the money. I know this has been debated and I really trust FM and appreciate your guys advice. I figure this lens will be a part of my kit for a long time. Please help!



Jan 19, 2012 at 10:05 PM
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p.1 #2 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


Just FYI, can't use a 10-22 on a 5DMk2.


Jan 19, 2012 at 10:06 PM
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p.1 #3 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


10-22mm is an EF-S lens for APS-C bodies, you can mod it to work on 5D II but won't be plug and play.

So, your choice would be down to 16-35 or 17-40 on 5D II. Do you need the extra stop for the indoor? Is flash photography allowed inside the Church? Or will flash interfere with the video crew?



Jan 19, 2012 at 10:11 PM
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p.1 #4 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


jwin, thanks for the reminder that I have been doing a lot of video with my 50mm 1.4 planar Zeiss. So, I will be doing a lot of video too. A lot of churches do not allow flash and I am leaning more towards the 16-35mm MkI. For only 300 or so more it seems like the right choice. Still wondering if I am missing something.


Jan 19, 2012 at 10:15 PM
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p.1 #5 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


A lot of people really like the Tokina 16-28 f/2.8. Another option and cheaper than a used 16-35.


Jan 19, 2012 at 11:14 PM
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p.1 #6 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


I have the version ll of the 16-35 and love it. If the first version is close in quality, (I don't know what the differences are other than the 82mm filter size on the ll) it sounds like a great buy. I find it to be a very useful range for indoor shots on my 5D2.


Jan 19, 2012 at 11:28 PM
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p.1 #7 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


I personally would stay away from 16-35L Version 1 as there are a lot of bad copies out there. As a matter of fact, there are also a lot of so-so copies of Version II, especially the earlier ones. If you want a 16-35L I would advise that you get a new one ... so you can return it for another copy if you find it a little soft.

I don't have a 16-35L II right now. I settled for a 17-40L + 24L II instead. What I like about the 17-40L is that I can use my 77mm CPL and Variable ND filter ... that will also fit my 24L and 70-200L II.



Jan 20, 2012 at 12:26 AM
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p.1 #8 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


I'd rather have the 1635mm 2.8 lens in you title if I could find one

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p.1 #9 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


A 1635mm f/2.8 lens would be incredible! Call it a NASA telescope!
In all seriousness, I'd go try out that 16-35mm and see if its a decent copy. Then ask $800 for it in 'cash-money'.



Jan 20, 2012 at 12:52 PM
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p.1 #10 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


I have the 10-22mm for use on my 7D and the 16-35mm I to use on my 5D II. I tried the 17-40 and the 16-35mm II but came back to the 16-35mm I. I like the consistent filter size, 77mm, with my other L lenses and, at least with my copies, little difference in image quality.

I agree with the $800 price. I bought a nearly new 16-35mm I, boxed as new as well, for $850 including shipping and paypal fees. $950 sounds pretty steep to me.

Dick



Jan 20, 2012 at 02:54 PM
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p.1 #11 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


That sounds pretty good, getting the 16-35 version 1. Check it out on your camera and make sure it is properly working. Try to get the price a little lower, $950 is about the upper end for a used version. New version II with warranty will be $500 more (or less if there is rebate). Version II is better, but version 1 was a big improvement over the 17-35L. Version II improves the peripheral sharpness and vignetting.




Jan 20, 2012 at 03:35 PM
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p.1 #12 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


I have owned both. first off, the proper etiquette is doing your price negotiation before hand, as you have done. this happened to me once, when I met with someone, who said he is interested in a lens, and then offered me less, and really pissed me off, b/c it was a total waste of my time.
Back to the lenses. 16-35 1 is a great wedding lens. 16-35II has better corners, esp on the wide end, which should be of no consequence for your application. the version 1 may be even marginally better wide open on the long end (28-35). I think the extra stop is very useful for indoor weddings. as for copy variations, I only owned one copy and it was very good.
Tokina 16-28 is another option, bigger and heavier, and more limited range, and a protruding front element. definitely will be sharper wide open in the corners. in the center, on a 5d2, not sure if there would be any visible difference. It is also subject to QC variations according to every review I read.



Jan 20, 2012 at 04:07 PM
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p.1 #13 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


Kevin -- I guess I should clarify about the negoitating prices -- I agree, do so before you sit down to conduct the transaction. I don't agree with jacking people around or putting them in an extortion type of spot. But it might be gotten slightly lower from this seller or another. Still, a good copy is certainly worth that price.


Jan 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM
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p.1 #14 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


Gunzorro, price is always negotiable. my comment was not directed at you, it was directed at skyisland, but again, thats simply my opinion. the price of 16-35II is down with the rebates that can drive price of version I down also. I sold mine for 910 with a uv date code, and it was a good copy. that was 1.5 years ago. since I have seen as much as 1100 asked for one on FM, but that was when the 16-35II was running at 1650. the op can do his research in terms of what is a good price for this lens. It is certainly not unreasonable to tell the seller that 800 or 825 is the most I am willing to pay. Its just not fair to jerk people around. he may have other buyers, everyones time should be respected.


Jan 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM
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p.1 #15 · 1635mm 2.8 or 17-40mm f4 or 10-22mm?


Kevin -- I completely agree. Thanks!


Jan 21, 2012 at 06:55 AM





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