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p.1 #1 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

I just wonder if Adobe will force me to upgrade to CS6 just to get
Camera RAW 7? It looks like LR4 brings highlights/shadows in RAW processing.
Are they really gonna wait with this for CS6 just to charge for an upgrade?

Jan 14, 2012 at 06:19 AM

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p.1 #2 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

Adobe isn't going to force you to do anything. They're going to try to add enough value with CS6 that you'll WANT to upgrade. That's the theory. :-)

But they probably will add the LR4 PV2012 to ACR in CS6 and not add it to CS5.

For me, each version of LR makes me need PS less and less but I still buy the upgrades. So far anyway.

Jan 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM

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p.1 #3 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

I would expect that Adobe is not going to release LR4 without also updating ACR in whatever Photoshop version is then current. I tried to go to Edit in Photoshop, and, while it works fine the ACR difference causes an extra dialog box as to the LR changes. Since it does not appear that CS6 will be offered simultaneously with LR4, I would hope that ACR 7 is added to CS5. We'll see.

Jan 14, 2012 at 06:37 PM

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p.1 #4 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

Z_man wrote:
I would expect that Adobe is not going to release LR4 without also updating ACR in whatever Photoshop version is then current. I tried to go to Edit in Photoshop, and, while it works fine the ACR difference causes an extra dialog box as to the LR changes. Since it does not appear that CS6 will be offered simultaneously with LR4, I would hope that ACR 7 is added to CS5. We'll see.

I want to agree with you, it would look pretty bad if LR had so many
improvements, but PS was still behind. I hope you're right

Jan 14, 2012 at 06:56 PM

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p.1 #5 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

I'll bet LR4 won't be released until shortly before CS6.

Jan 14, 2012 at 09:18 PM

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p.1 #6 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

I have yet to see Adobe put any improvements/enhancements in Raw processing in the existing version of ACR/Photoshop (with the exception of Lightroom 1.1/ACR 4.1). Any new features in Lightroom will only be available in ACR 7/CS6.

Typically Adobe releases six updates to the current version of ACR at 3-month intervals. We are already at ACR 6.6 so I doubt any other updates to ACR 6 will be forthcoming. They may release another ACR update with new camera support (as they did with ACR 5.7) but it will be will not have the new processing features.

Jan 14, 2012 at 11:06 PM

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p.1 #7 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

The LR4 improvements will not be added to CS5. If they did there would be hardly any reason to upgrade to CS6

Jan 14, 2012 at 11:21 PM

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p.1 #8 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

JimClark wrote:
The LR4 improvements will not be added to CS5. If they did there would be hardly any reason to upgrade to CS6

well, that's exactly my point - they are "forcing" me to upgrade for this reason,
something I can get in a $100 product instead...

Jan 15, 2012 at 03:48 AM

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p.1 #9 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

Then what's the problem? Buy the $100 product and be happy.

Jan 15, 2012 at 05:25 AM

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p.1 #10 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

You can always export your LR4 images as a TIFF to PS so nobody's forcing anyone to upgrade...

Jan 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

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p.1 #11 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

Absolutely no-one is putting a gun to your head. And it's not like developing personnel and support staff comes cheap, nowadays. If it's a product you need / want /use - pay for it.

Why does EVERYONE expect to get everything for free now? On boards like this people nag and moan about the state of photography, "no-one wants to pay the prices I had in 2004" and so on, but they themselves just can't be bothered to pay for other people's work.

They are in no way FORCING you use a product upgrade they've spent thousands of qualified software development engineer hours on, and keep a rather large support staff for.

Jan 15, 2012 at 02:11 PM

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p.1 #12 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

theSuede wrote:
Absolutely no-one is putting a gun to your head. And it's not like developing personnel and support staff comes cheap, nowadays. If it's a product you need / want /use - pay for it.

Why does EVERYONE expect to get everything for free now? On boards like this people nag and moan about the state of photography, "no-one wants to pay the prices I had in 2004" and so on, but they themselves just can't be bothered to pay for other people's work.

They are in no way FORCING you use a product upgrade they've spent thousands of qualified software development engineer hours on, and keep a rather large support staff for.

I agree. How can anyone whine about having to pay for new enhanced functionality. The time to whine is when Adobe decides not to add anymore functionality and boat anchors the product.

When we upgrade our OS from XP to say Win7, do we also expect this to be free?

Jan 15, 2012 at 02:31 PM

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p.1 #13 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

I bet adobe WON'T upgrade cs5 with the new acr .
They have (to the best of my knowledge) never made such a major upgrade to a current version before.
They will introduce it into cs6 .
Cs6 will not be very long to ship, adobe have already announced upgrade plans (that have been tweaked a little). If you have cs5 then you would be mad not to upgrade to cs6 now that adobe have changed their upgrade policy . Skipping a version now will cost you so much more.

Jan 15, 2012 at 04:09 PM

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p.1 #14 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

snowboarder wrote:
JimClark wrote:
The LR4 improvements will not be added to CS5. If they did there would be hardly any reason to upgrade to CS6

well, that's exactly my point - they are "forcing" me to upgrade for this reason,
something I can get in a $100 product instead...

What is the $100 product? Lr4 will not be a 100 bucks.
Lr3 can be had fairly cheap now but it's at the end of its life so you could expect it to be less.

Jan 15, 2012 at 04:12 PM

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p.1 #15 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

I was just on the phone with Adobe support and they don't like snowboarder's attitude
and told me that when Photoshop 6 is released not only will the refuse to sell it to him they will disable his current version until he apologizes, then they might sell him a full version but not a upgrade to teach him a lesson.

Jan 15, 2012 at 06:01 PM

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p.1 #16 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

What is the $100 product?

Perhaps he's referring to Aperture: $79.99 from the Apple App Store. Aperture will do most of what Lightroom will do. It needs better NR, but other than that it's pretty much Lightroom's equal.

John

Jan 15, 2012 at 06:34 PM

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p.1 #17 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

WAYCOOL wrote:
I was just on the phone with Adobe support and they don't like snowboarder's attitude
and told me that when Photoshop 6 is released not only will the refuse to sell it to him they will disable his current version until he apologizes, then they might sell him a full version but not a upgrade to teach him a lesson.

Nonsense, they love snowboarder's attitude! In fact, they told me they just 'upgraded' his photoshop only license to a full creative suite license! He just got a bunch of extra programs for free, and even if he never uses them, he has the option to and they are all for free!

Jan 15, 2012 at 06:46 PM

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p.1 #18 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

BluesWest wrote:
What is the $100 product?

Perhaps he's referring to Aperture: $79.99 from the Apple App Store. Aperture will do most of what Lightroom will do. It needs better NR, but other than that it's pretty much Lightroom's equal.

John

True enough. But the extra cost of the mac to run it

Jan 15, 2012 at 08:50 PM

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p.1 #19 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

Ian.Dobinson wrote:
snowboarder wrote:
JimClark wrote:
The LR4 improvements will not be added to CS5. If they did there would be hardly any reason to upgrade to CS6

well, that's exactly my point - they are "forcing" me to upgrade for this reason,
something I can get in a $100 product instead...

What is the $100 product? Lr4 will not be a 100 bucks.
Lr3 can be had fairly cheap now but it's at the end of its life so you could expect it to be less.

The $100 product is the upgrade to LR from 3 to 4. They're usually about $100.

Jan 15, 2012 at 09:40 PM

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p.1 #20 · CS6 to get LR4 RAW processing?

So far I don't see where SnoBoarder has LR 3

Jan 17, 2012 at 02:25 AM

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