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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


Ok, this may have been as close as I'd EVER come to owning a lens of this proportion, short of a huge lottery type windfall!!! The local camera store has a 600 f/4L IS used for $7500.00, and I decided to go into the shop to get a mount on my 7D...I'm extremely impressed!!!

It's heavy but definitely able to be maneuvered fairly well with some practice and good technique. Hand hold-able in shooting position for a couple minutes and a bit of rest in between. I guess I'll beef up with a 15lb potato sack in the shooting position if I ever bring myself to buying one!!! Needless to say, it took my "lens-lust" to a whole new level.

I shot these through the windows and didn't have very much more to "target" in the 5 minutes I was having my lense-gasm!!!



Dec 29, 2011 at 11:57 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


Buy it, no one needs to eat and we survived without houses and heating !


Dec 30, 2011 at 12:00 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


reno.peterson wrote:
I shot these through the windows


WHAT You used a filter on that lens!

Jk looks like fun.



Dec 30, 2011 at 12:01 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


you should get it.

just think of the great shots you could get of drew brees



Dec 30, 2011 at 12:43 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


Buy it.


Dec 30, 2011 at 01:33 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


Go for it, Reno.....that lens is some sweet deal compared to 600 MkII.
No doubt, 600 f/4 IS Mk I is the hardest one to shoot hand-held because of its sheer weight and length....very few people can do it in a genuine fashion, for extended periods of time. Therefore, a sturdy pod/head is a neccessity.

All around, I think 500 f/4 is a more practical lens, and a bit cheaper too. That one I am sure you could use handheld for an hour or two.



Edited on Dec 30, 2011 at 01:56 AM · View previous versions



Dec 30, 2011 at 01:35 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


Offer $7000. Current eBay prices are at about $6550 in [M-] condition. The hands-on and no-shipping purchase from a local brick and mortar shop is worth something, but not $1000.

P.S. I agree with Peter about the 500/4L IS, it's a pleasure for hand hold shooting. Average eBay price in [M-] condition, $5620, $4440 in [E] condition.



Dec 30, 2011 at 01:42 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


I owned the even older non-IS for a few months before I decided that I just wasn't physically up to it.

Its even harder to handhold with no IS.

http://www.mount-spokane-photography.com/Photography/600mm-F4/Canon-70-210-F-4-8514/832707132_Btkxy-XL.jpg




Dec 30, 2011 at 01:45 AM
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Don't do this to me, I have my own lens crisis I am working on!


Dec 30, 2011 at 03:17 AM
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600MM f/4 IS w/1.4x ii handheld:

http://www.holzphotoclient.com/Landnature/Birds/0R4E1071/1183923695_cpWzG-L.jpg



Dec 30, 2011 at 03:50 AM
 

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jcolwell wrote:
P.S. I agree with Peter about the 500/4L IS, it's a pleasure for hand hold shooting. Average eBay price in [M-] condition, $5620, $4440 in [E] condition.


I gotta call you on this one. I track 500/4 prices and under $4500 is something you see once in a blue moon - hardly average price for one in Excellent condition. I think maybe you are including the older (and much cheaper) 500/4.5L in your average.



Dec 30, 2011 at 05:42 AM
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PetKal wrote:
All around, I think 500 f/4 is a more practical lens, and a bit cheaper too. That one I am sure you could use handheld for an hour or two.



I cannot handhold the 500 for an hour.



Dec 30, 2011 at 11:09 AM
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vachss wrote:
I gotta call you on this one. I track 500/4 prices and under $4500 is something you see once in a blue moon - hardly average price for one in Excellent condition. I think maybe you are including the older (and much cheaper) 500/4.5L in your average.


You can call me any time. Here's the current Lens$db data for 500/4L IS in [E] to [E+] condition, most recent sale in July 2011.

=AVERAGE(4499,4500,4159,4505,4500,4350,4451,4550)

vachss wrote:
I think maybe you are including the older (and much cheaper) 500/4.5L in your average.


I think you should check out the Lens Price Database before making erroneous statements like that, http://tinyurl.com/jcolwell-lensdb


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Dec 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


I just checked the "SOLD" 500's in the Buy and Sell Forum. Average price was $7000-$7500.


Dec 30, 2011 at 01:01 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


The two most recent sales that I recorded on eBay for 500/4L IS [M-] were $6000 this month and $5400 in November.


Dec 30, 2011 at 01:03 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


jcolwell, do you go back on check feedback to make sure these low selling items were legit?


Dec 30, 2011 at 04:01 PM
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big country wrote:
jcolwell, do you go back on check feedback to make sure these low selling items were legit?


I generally don't check feedback. These were not 'low selling items'. These are typical multi-bid auction prices from sellers with good feedback. There are also many sales with much higher Buy It Now prices that I generally do not record. You might have to be patient to get one, but they're out there. I have a fairly accurate bogus detector, and all of these sales seemed OK to me. YMMV.

I've detracted sufficiently from the OP's thread. If you want more info about Lens$db, then please read the documentation at the site cited above.




Dec 30, 2011 at 04:33 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


Is that guy peeing on his own car?



Dec 31, 2011 at 01:07 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · "Old" 600 f/4L IS - WOW...


What is the obsession with "hand holding" all about? These are large lenses. A 500mm or 600mm is usually shot using a sturdy tripod and a Wimberely head. I know this because I went on a trip with three very well known nature/wildlife photographers and each of them shot this way. That was enough evidence for me. Your technique may differ...but I would suggest you should consider a good sturdy tripod and a nice head.

I am just saying...there seems to be tripod-phobia on this forum.

Jerry



Dec 31, 2011 at 06:56 PM
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gdsf2 wrote:
What is the obsession with "hand holding" all about? These are large lenses. A 500mm or 600mm is usually shot using a sturdy tripod and a Wimberely head. I know this because I went on a trip with three very well known nature/wildlife photographers and each of them shot this way. That was enough evidence for me. Your technique may differ...but I would suggest you should consider a good sturdy tripod and a nice head.

I am just saying...there seems to be tripod-phobia on this forum.

Jerry


I don't think any 500/4 user will argue that tripods don't improve results. I'd even bet that the most ardent 500-hand-holders own a good tripod/head system. It's just that the ability to shoot without a tripod greatly increases mobility and the range of shots to which we have access. I might hike a couple of miles over relatively level terrain with the 500 and its full support system. With just the bare lens, however, I can hike much further along rougher trails, much more easily track flying birds (and also, travel by air with only carry-on luggage).

Canon's image stabilization system really changed the rules of the game for long lens users. Why not take advantage of it?



Dec 31, 2011 at 08:23 PM
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